So you know that first phone call you get around four on some Sunday afternoon, and your friend is all over the moon because her meth dealer boyfriend took her out for a perfect romantic dinner and told her all about how he's going to leave his fiancee
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I am. And so are you. You’re not a grunt, Dean, you’re a genius. When it comes to lore...you’re the best damn hunter I’ve ever seen. Better than me, better than dad.
This line jumped out at me because of two things:
1) The reference to lore. Dean doesn't work the lore, that's either Sam or the late lamented Bobby. Genius? Wha...?
2) I wish they had retextualized that. Because Dean is a great hunter. We've seen that over time, and he survived a year in Purgatory. BUT every time an outside force (demon's blood, the siren, etc.)has taken over Sam, he says he's a better hunter, that he's "stronger" than Dean. I never quite know what they mean by "stronger" on this show. Tougher? Better in some way? Is it just guy talk? When he was soulless, he was an amazing hunter, also when he lost Dean in "Mystery Spot ( ... )
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See, I don't think any of it was a mistake. I think all the things about it that were questionable or not true are make perfect sense as what Sam thinks Dean wants to hear, not about what you'd write in an impartial official biography.
I never quite know what they mean by "stronger" on this show.
Yeah, agreed. I don't think either of them is the "stronger" hunter generally, although when Sam loses his inhibitions for one reason or another, all bets are off.
What is dubcon?
Dubious consent. The guy here made the same deal Becky did over Sam a season ago.
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Dean's speech was spoken at Sam but designed for Dean , he's schizophrenic wanting Sam to have 'normal' can cause a whip lash sometimes esp in regards to his attitude first half of the season .
Having said that I actually really liked the episode and wont deny giving Sam the trials gives him a role rather than a weak sl that gives me relief more than anything .
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he's schizophrenic wanting Sam to have 'normal' can cause a whip lash sometimes esp in regards to his attitude first half of the season
ha, yeah, though I think "full of shit when it makes him look and feel good to be" is a much likelier explanation than schizophrenia.
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Although yes, self-glorification mixed with self-loathing...that's our Dean. "You can't do the trials because it's all about MEEEEE and my (not really but it's my go-to) death wish."
ETA: I never in this lifetime thought we would hear Dean talk about tomatoes and have bananas in his shopping bag! I think vitamins is still setting the bar too high. :)
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Even that struck me as all tell and no show, though? Because he waits until Sam is good and terrified for Cas, and then he throws down the ultimatum. It all but guaranteed Sam was going to stick around, and to feel too complicit in the whole thing to challenge The Way Dean Likes Things Done. If he'd been consciously playing Sam he couldn't have done better. Maybe he was signalling a genuine desire to change, but since then there hasn't been any sort of test of that resolve, and so I don't have any reason to buy it, especially not against, you know, the everything else.
Although yes, self-glorification mixed with self-loathing...that's our Dean. "You can't do the trials because it's all about MEEEEE and my (not really but it's my go-to) death wish."Right. And I think it's the chickens coming home to roost on the Winchester absolutism. He HAS TO be willing to ( ... )
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YES. I think it's been fairly clear for a long time that Dean's caretaking is really not about the best interests of others as individuals, so much as, it's about The Group. He does what he feels is necessary to keep people around and in their place. ie, his behavior throughout S1 (~way before the shit hit the fan) is solicitous and concerned, but if it was about Sam's well-being, we would've seen him ask ONCE if Sam is sure he wants to be doing this, or even encouraged him to go back to school, once Sam started being able to deal with the first shock of his grief over Jessica. Instead he avoids the topic, pressures Sam to sever ties with his friends, tries to guilt him out of leaving the life after the YED is dead ( ... )
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AHAHAHAHA, yes.
THIS SHOW IT'S KILLING ME
Ugh, it's so good.
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I <3 this season so much.
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