Dysfunctional Shipping Awareness Month doesn't do linear.

Aug 03, 2012 12:12

AKA, the "ship I am Doin Wronger than any other ship I Do Wrong, apparently": Kara/Lee. If you RightShip Kara/Lee, then, go on with your bad self and all, but fair warning that you're possibly going to hate this post? If, however, you love misery and dysfunction, JOIN ME, FRIEND.

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hobbit_kate August 3 2012, 16:19:47 UTC
I love this rant :-)

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pocochina August 3 2012, 16:27:40 UTC
They're totally fabulous BUT ALSO COMPLETELY HORRIBLE. Be still my heart!

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obsessive_a101 August 3 2012, 17:08:51 UTC
I LOVE YOU!!!! First, you made me understand Lee better, and now you go and do this - the one ship in BSG that I was pretty sure I couldn't grasp at all, because your analysis is SO spot on with my feelings regarding Kara/Lee or Kara-Lee. I loved the mirror-reflection you hold up to the tropes and then proceeded to break them the FRAK down, and yes, BSG is very good for that. The thing about Kara/Lee is that it is so intrinsically destructive, and yet, it works BECAUSE of the other parts of it that is NOT romantic shippy love, and those have always been the parts that made me happy. That moment during the mutiny where Kara tells Lee to wake the frak up with a kiss and both proceeded to be the Awesome!Twins-with-Guns? was actually a great moment for me at least in regards to their ship because it works so well in parallel with the "Six of One" scene where Lee goes to Kara.

Anyway, that ramble was beginning to make no sense, so... YAY! I LOVE YOU for helping me understand my own feelingsETA: Oh, also to add - yes to the major narrative ( ... )

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pocochina August 3 2012, 17:30:34 UTC
Leland is my FAVORITE life-ruiner, it's true! ♥

I loved the mirror-reflection you hold up to the tropes and then proceeded to break them the FRAK down, and yes, BSG is very good for that.

Yeah, it's one of the things the show does best. When BSG falls down on the execution, it's almost always because it didn't quite commit to the deconstruction. It was always a little too afraid to stick the landing.

DaybreakQu'est que c'est Daybreak? *innocent face ( ... )

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obsessive_a101 August 3 2012, 18:32:21 UTC
Yeah, it's one of the things the show does best. When BSG falls down on the execution, it's almost always because it didn't quite commit to the deconstruction. It was always a little too afraid to stick the landing.Yes ( ... )

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pocochina August 3 2012, 19:27:03 UTC
Announcer: And the vault is of great difficult, the most difficult among the women's division of 6.80, but she would need to stick it in order for the execution score to count, and does she? Does she?! YES YES! Well, almost, a slight hop to the left there, but certainly much better than any I've seen thus far. (A slight Parody of NBC commentator...)LOL

hee! ♥

The show was always at it best when it showed all the characters and their frak-ups AND successes and growth as a product of their individual identities and choices as well as their interactions with other characters.

Yes, exactly. It falls apart when it decides that recognizing that agency can't possibly coexist with a shocking! conclusion! and whips the rug out from under it.

It's a trend I've noticed about my favorite characters - that they make their own choices and own up to them even when they are mistakes

You're going to love the Buffyverse. Love it.

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penny_lane_42 August 3 2012, 17:35:19 UTC
I hate, hate, HATE "nobody for me but you" crap.

UGH YES UGH. TEAM FREE WILL, BASICALLY.

I actually have 0 feels about these two, but I love reading your thoughts! And I agree with you on the wrongness and worst aspect of them: their relationship is really fascinatingly constructed!

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pocochina August 3 2012, 17:45:30 UTC
I agree with you on the wrongness and worst aspect of them: their relationship is really fascinatingly constructed!

ha, yeah. I remember being really baffled when I started catching up on the fandom and reading about how all their drama was about the show trying to impede the ship? I don't know, maybe that was the original intent, but that's not what happened. What happened was a not-boring relationship that actually respected the integrity and development of both characters and their individual narratives. I have a few concerns about the handling of Kara's and Lee's separate arcs, but Kara/Lee was something special and extremely interesting.

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rosaxx50 August 4 2012, 00:27:29 UTC
I wrong!ship Kara/Lee so hard. But I have only watched up to 4.02 or so, SO I'LL BOOKMARK THIS FOR LATER.

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pocochina August 4 2012, 01:55:49 UTC
OOOOH, EXCITING. There are some truly excellent episodes in your near future!

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ever_neutral August 4 2012, 05:07:51 UTC
Needless to say, I co-sign this fucking post.

Then Lee went off the rails and I was, in retrospect, doomed to love him forever, which probably had something to do with my change of heart. (I also do Character Love wrong, but that's a whole other thing.)

♥ ♥ ♥

As per the ship, though, I think the turnaround moment for me was Scar. The best Kara/Lee scene, or THE BEST Kara/Lee scene?

THE BEST KARA/LEE SCENE. omg, the whole back half of S2 + S3 is dynamite for these life-ruiners.

BSG is post-apocalyptic. It's about the tragedy and drama of picking up the pieces after the conventional story has been told. So of course at least one of its central romances should pick up after the Big Event. Moore, you magnificent fucking troll.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH SO MUCH HATE/LOVE.

In the hypothetical conventional romance I thought I was getting with them, it would have been relationship or identity for one or both of them, because if it doesn't consume you, dear, it isn't really love.TROLOLOLOLOL indeed. I will always go for ( ... )

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pocochina August 4 2012, 15:27:28 UTC
I figured you'd understand me!

omg, the whole back half of S2 + S3 is dynamite for these life-ruiners.

DYNAMITE. Because they are at their life-ruining worst there, and they still keep finding each other. And I think there ends up being this radical acceptance between them which melts my horrible little heart.

I'm sure you'll make it up soon enough.

lol. I HOPE.

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