KATHERINE KATHERINE KATHERINE KATHERINE KATHERINE. I WILL BE OVER HERE FLAILING WITH LOVE FOR HER.
Now all he knows he has going for him is being Klaus’ EX FROM HELL. Stefan is now free to pursue his unlife’s true calling: FULL-TIME TROLL.
HAHAHA OMG YES!
I was never invested in Caroline/Tyler from the start, so they didn't have me to lose, but that whole situation is a big old mess. Ugh.
Rebekah has become fantastic and the interaction with Elena was glorious.
And did the dagger burn up with Mikael? Because if so, all they accomplished with the whole thing was making Klaus completely unkillable, rather than virtually unkillable. They picked a fight with Klaus entirely on their own turf, and he still beat them.
Yeah, those are my questions as well. I guess we shall see when the show finally returns to us.
KATHERINE. I KNOW. I KNOOOOOOOOW. I love that Kat's motivation is and will always be Kat. And she's happier with the two of them around somehow or other, and so she takes care of business. It's a selfish kind of love, but love nonetheless.
REBEKAH. Time to lose some daggers, people! Too many good characters locked away!
And YES, I love that even getting rid of Mikael set more things in motion. Also I wonder how he trained himself to live on vampires rather than humans? Because I would love to see that happen.
And it did all go to shit because someone let their humanity get in the way. THAT SOMEONE BEING KATHERINE OH MY GOD SHE IS PERFECT.
OH KATHERINE.
He thought of everything BUT that he was at risk going up against Klaus himself, and that Stefan and Katherine might throw everything away for him, THAT WAS THE UNTHINKABLE. OH DAMON.
OH DAMON. And of course if someone had told DAMON about Klaus' plan, he'd have been like, "Yeah, go ahead, let me die. That's how we got into this mess in the first place, isn't it?"
I mean, the “we’ll let him go! He’s GONE” is about as believable as the “THERE IS NO GOOD IN DAMON, NONE AT ALL” refrain of the first two seasons
*snerk* I admit, I fully expected Damon and Elena to kiss in that scene. I'm figuring that D/E will actually try to move on, only to find out that Stefan's not "gone" at all, at the most inopportune time.
But yes, KEEP ON TROLLIN', STEFAN.
So what, he’s supposed to be helplessly miserable about something that can’t be fixed and doesn’t actually leave him any worse off?
of course if someone had told DAMON about Klaus' plan, he'd have been like, "Yeah, go ahead, let me die. That's how we got into this mess in the first place, isn't it?"
TRUE. Which is why she rolled the dice with Stefan rather than just telling him.
Maybe Klaus did that because Mikael had hid the stake? So Klaus couldn't kill him yet?
Ooooh, that would make sense. Or it was some of the other Original siblings we haven't met yet?
He may not be any worse off, but the rest of them sure are, if he'll let them die because Klaus wants it.
I mean, that's fair, but nobody ever says that. They focus on YOU'RE A HYBRID and YOU WERE SIRED and not figuring out what he might do and how he could stop it. They're just telling him to self-flagellate over YOU'RE A MONSTER. So of course that doesn't work.
Hahahaha, sorry, I forgot about this show's relationship with logic.
But what I meant was, storytelling conventions dictate that THE HEROES MUST BEAT THE BAD GUYS at some point. So. Unless this turns into the "Klaus and his merry band of hybrids who killed all the major characters - oh, except Elena who is a captive for hybrid-making purposes and who keeps trying to kill herself but that's nothing new" show... actually, that doesn't sound half bad...
And by the end, she’s embraced her commitment to life - we survive, we always do. Stefan was her flirtation with death; she has to let go (at least as she’s known him up until now) in order to live.
WHAT ARE THESE FEELINGS I AM FEELING. Wow. Did not make that connection. (Maybe because I don't particularly associate her friendship w/Damon with LIFE so much? lol.) But you're right, it is incredibly life-affirming. In a dark way.
And it did all go to shit because someone let their humanity get in the way. THAT SOMEONE BEING KATHERINE OH MY GOD SHE IS PERFECT.
I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW WHAT IS BREATHING
Now all he knows he has going for him is being Klaus’ EX FROM HELL.
HAHAHA OMG RIGHT? STEFAN SALVATORE STOLE YOUR FUCKING COFFINS.
I am inclined to agree with your C/T thoughts. You've articulated why Tyler hasn't lost my sympathy at all. I'm still invested in the two of them though, because. THE BEAUTIFUL ANGST, LOL.
As it were, Mikael becomes all about Klaus, which is a fantastic inversion of the genetics=everything mess that I’ve
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(Maybe because I don't particularly associate her friendship w/Damon with LIFE so much? lol.) But you're right, it is incredibly life-affirming. In a dark way.
I don't even know if I'd say it's necessarily a dark way, so much as a precarious one. Damon isn't the dark figure he was when they met - for the moment. But, that's the nature of life that was such a part of her struggle with martyrdom in S2, that it's so very uncertain. So to embrace Damon, Prince of Mood Swings, is just life, no more or less.
And all that turns into a fantastic way to play with the show's main pairing. Stefan she connects with losing her parents and the peace of death and giving up. Maybe it's not so much the BEING EVOL that freaked her out about him, so much as the way even he wasn't entirely reliable. It's not that HE HAS BECOME DEATH, so much as, he's stopped becoming death and she's stopped wanting it.
I'm not really finding fault with the plot re: the burned dagger! More just curious, and glad there's an open end to pick back up with.
Just that if he can change in any direction, then he's not that stasis and peace she associates with death. Her out can't be relied on anymore. And I think that's a part of the disillusionment.
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Now all he knows he has going for him is being Klaus’ EX FROM HELL. Stefan is now free to pursue his unlife’s true calling: FULL-TIME TROLL.
HAHAHA OMG YES!
I was never invested in Caroline/Tyler from the start, so they didn't have me to lose, but that whole situation is a big old mess. Ugh.
Rebekah has become fantastic and the interaction with Elena was glorious.
And did the dagger burn up with Mikael? Because if so, all they accomplished with the whole thing was making Klaus completely unkillable, rather than virtually unkillable. They picked a fight with Klaus entirely on their own turf, and he still beat them.
Yeah, those are my questions as well. I guess we shall see when the show finally returns to us.
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REBEKAH. Time to lose some daggers, people! Too many good characters locked away!
And YES, I love that even getting rid of Mikael set more things in motion. Also I wonder how he trained himself to live on vampires rather than humans? Because I would love to see that happen.
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OH KATHERINE.
He thought of everything BUT that he was at risk going up against Klaus himself, and that Stefan and Katherine might throw everything away for him, THAT WAS THE UNTHINKABLE. OH DAMON.
OH DAMON. And of course if someone had told DAMON about Klaus' plan, he'd have been like, "Yeah, go ahead, let me die. That's how we got into this mess in the first place, isn't it?"
I mean, the “we’ll let him go! He’s GONE” is about as believable as the “THERE IS NO GOOD IN DAMON, NONE AT ALL” refrain of the first two seasons
*snerk* I admit, I fully expected Damon and Elena to kiss in that scene. I'm figuring that D/E will actually try to move on, only to find out that Stefan's not "gone" at all, at the most inopportune time.
But yes, KEEP ON TROLLIN', STEFAN.
So what, he’s supposed to be helplessly miserable about something that can’t be fixed and doesn’t actually leave him any worse off?
Well. He ( ... )
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TRUE. Which is why she rolled the dice with Stefan rather than just telling him.
Maybe Klaus did that because Mikael had hid the stake? So Klaus couldn't kill him yet?
Ooooh, that would make sense. Or it was some of the other Original siblings we haven't met yet?
He may not be any worse off, but the rest of them sure are, if he'll let them die because Klaus wants it.
I mean, that's fair, but nobody ever says that. They focus on YOU'RE A HYBRID and YOU WERE SIRED and not figuring out what he might do and how he could stop it. They're just telling him to self-flagellate over YOU'RE A MONSTER. So of course that doesn't work.
from a logical plot perspective
whuh?
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But what I meant was, storytelling conventions dictate that THE HEROES MUST BEAT THE BAD GUYS at some point. So. Unless this turns into the "Klaus and his merry band of hybrids who killed all the major characters - oh, except Elena who is a captive for hybrid-making purposes and who keeps trying to kill herself but that's nothing new" show... actually, that doesn't sound half bad...
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WHAT ARE THESE FEELINGS I AM FEELING. Wow. Did not make that connection. (Maybe because I don't particularly associate her friendship w/Damon with LIFE so much? lol.) But you're right, it is incredibly life-affirming. In a dark way.
And it did all go to shit because someone let their humanity get in the way. THAT SOMEONE BEING KATHERINE OH MY GOD SHE IS PERFECT.
I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW WHAT IS BREATHING
Now all he knows he has going for him is being Klaus’ EX FROM HELL.
HAHAHA OMG RIGHT? STEFAN SALVATORE STOLE YOUR FUCKING COFFINS.
I am inclined to agree with your C/T thoughts. You've articulated why Tyler hasn't lost my sympathy at all. I'm still invested in the two of them though, because. THE BEAUTIFUL ANGST, LOL.
As it were, Mikael becomes all about Klaus, which is a fantastic inversion of the genetics=everything mess that I’ve ( ... )
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I don't even know if I'd say it's necessarily a dark way, so much as a precarious one. Damon isn't the dark figure he was when they met - for the moment. But, that's the nature of life that was such a part of her struggle with martyrdom in S2, that it's so very uncertain. So to embrace Damon, Prince of Mood Swings, is just life, no more or less.
And all that turns into a fantastic way to play with the show's main pairing. Stefan she connects with losing her parents and the peace of death and giving up. Maybe it's not so much the BEING EVOL that freaked her out about him, so much as the way even he wasn't entirely reliable. It's not that HE HAS BECOME DEATH, so much as, he's stopped becoming death and she's stopped wanting it.
I'm not really finding fault with the plot re: the burned dagger! More just curious, and glad there's an open end to pick back up with.
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OH. HAHAHAHA. That's... rather neat.
Maybe it's not so much the BEING EVOL that freaked her out about him, so much as the way even he wasn't entirely reliable.
Agreed. Not sure what you mean about Stefan being/not being death though?
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