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calixti May 27 2011, 01:43:36 UTC
That video is so awesome I immediately shared it with two Whedonite friends of mine. :D

And can I just say, I love that you love Hilary Clinton. She's so awesome, and the people around me in meatspace love to hate on her.

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pocochina May 27 2011, 01:49:20 UTC
OH MY GOD, SHE IS SUCH A BAMF. <3 <3 <3

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angearia May 27 2011, 02:04:56 UTC
Ooh, I like that Fred essay!

She's easily one of the most hated on women in the 'verse. I just never understood what was to dislike. I can understand not liking her arc -- specifically the Gunn/Fred/Wes triangle -- but it always surprises me how much animosity is thrown her way. After reading this essay, I think she's better developed than Oz, yet she's the target of a lot of ranting.

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pocochina May 27 2011, 02:15:03 UTC
right? Honestly my eyes glaze over when I see Fred-bashing or -erasing (which is worse in a lot of ways, IMO) so I'm just venturing a guess. And obviously it's not about any individual taste for or against the character, because I want people to like what they like, obviously. But I feel like she (totally unfairly) becomes the target of a lot of (totally justified) frustration over AtS's Lady Issues, because her story is just riddled with them. I think maybe not everyone draws the distinction on that where I would. So I ignore it, LALALA!

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ever_neutral May 27 2011, 02:07:10 UTC
AAAAA SO MANY GOODIES.

That Fred essay--word so hard. Changed my life. Or my view of Fred, anyway.

I don't recommend the comments like I normally do, because some threads start to feel like conversations about tagging "MAN PAIN!!!" onto dislike of characters and not caring about their problems, which I think is an inappropriate use of feminism as justification for fandom opinions.

lol, preach. Actually I would like someone to write an essay about THAT. *throws that idea out there*

I think Lee's depressive spiral became where I got interested enough in him to eventually relate to and love him like I do now which is a lot because I clearly have gross emotional problems. Whatever, THIS JUST IN.

LOL ILU.

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pocochina May 27 2011, 02:23:57 UTC
Yeah. And I mean, it's one of those things where the pattern bugs me more than any group of instances of it? I know my (rare but intense) character distaste, when it happens, does include feminist criticism of them, because it's how I see the world. And there's value to voicing frustration about that, and then it turns into I KNOW IT WHEN I SEE IT! which is pretty unhelpful. But it adds up to frustration. Like, polemic yelling about XYZ fandom opinions does not give anyone Feminist Extra-Credit. (Then again, I also don't have an issue saying I just don't like something and maybe explaining why rather than justifying, so maybe that's easier for me to say.)

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haha, apt icon is apt ever_neutral May 27 2011, 05:01:10 UTC
Got nothing but word, man. That attitude drives me up the wall. Feminism is not your Fandom Baseball Bat.

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Re: haha, apt icon is apt pocochina May 27 2011, 05:09:33 UTC
Laura can disapprove of this nonsense all day.

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astreamofstars May 27 2011, 08:32:21 UTC
Heh, you ever heard MM squee over Hillary Clinton? I've heard her say more than once she partially based Laura on her.

Love all your favourite scenes.

Obviously I would have to have massive Freudian issues to ship them. So I don't. Mostly.

S'alright, I will ship them on your behalf (yum).

I am so stealing that rainbow spew gif.

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pocochina May 27 2011, 16:15:36 UTC
you ever heard MM squee over Hillary Clinton? I've heard her say more than once she partially based Laura on her.

I KNOW. I KNOW. AND IT MAKES ME LIKE


... )

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obsessive_a101 May 31 2011, 14:54:38 UTC
Adorable flail.

*joins you*

And yes, Mary McDonnell is a gigantic Hillary fangirl. :)

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pocochina May 31 2011, 23:24:40 UTC
Mary McDonnell is a gigantic Hillary fangirl

BE STILL MY HEART. SUCH FABULOUS LADIES.

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pocochina May 27 2011, 16:18:25 UTC
And Hillary FTW. Voting for her made me cry

ME TOO YO NO SHAME HERE.

ha, it was hard to pick out BSG scenes! especially eliminating ten of my Laura favorites.

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