Comments | pocochina: but somehow, we're the ones who hate men?

pocochina

but somehow, we're the ones who hate men?

Feb 23, 2011 20:13

This is why I can't have nice things have Anger Issues don't stray outside of my f-list.

I blame myself, really. I should've known better to click on a link that read "The Search for Spike's Balls." I did have a moment where I realized just how terrible a mistake reading it would be, and then I thought the following thought:

NOBODY COULD POSSIBLY ( Read more... )

masculinity, wtf, the worst, feminism, btvs/ats, my f-list is the best list, rant, assholes

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pocochina February 24 2011, 01:39:15 UTC

UGH, MOVED AND SECONDED. It's not even a good essay! It's just shock value, my GOD.

HAHAHA BALLS! SOMEONE PUBLISH THIS COMMENT! CHECK, PLS!

gabrielleabelle February 24 2011, 01:32:07 UTC

*not reading the article*

*not reading the article*

*not reading the article*

*not reading the article*

YOU CAN'T MAKE ME READ IT!!!

Anyway, I have a good guess as to what it says: "Spike was awesome, hardcore, and manly until he got hit with the love bug then he became a lame pussy loser."

I hate that particular complaint about Spike on SO MANY levels.

One: Even leaving feminism out of it, THAT'S CALLED CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT, PEEPS! Okay, so some people aren't jazzed about the direction of that development. But, personally, I'm glad we got it over four years of static cardboard cut-out Spike. I mean, look at Oz, a character who had no real substantial development of his own when he was a regular. Know what happened? HE LEFT.

Two: Falling in love is unmanly? Becoming less aggressive/evil is unmanly? Really? evil!Spike is what men are supposed to be like? Don't get me wrong, I love evil!Spike (in a fictional character sorta way), but he's not my platonic ideal of manhood. He doesn't exactly exhibit the traits that I think all ( ... )

pocochina February 24 2011, 01:47:06 UTC

Anyway, I have a good guess as to what it says: "Spike was awesome, hardcore, and manly until he got hit with the love bug then he became a lame pussy loser."

HOW EVER DID YOU KNOW. It's not like this kind of crap isn't available everywhere any day, but it's especially snarkable to me tonight.

THAT'S CALLED CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT, PEEPS!

WHY I NEVER. WHAT ARE YOU, SOME KINDA SISSY JANE AUSTEN READING SNOB? BALLS! BALLS, I SAY!

I've seen the ponytail tip, too. And I'm really glad someone told me! Because my hair clip is a MAGIC ANTI-VIOLENCE SHIELD.

The boyfriend gets all rage-y about this stuff with me because he has a different conception of "masculinity" than the rest of society appears to, and he gets angry when he sees men portrayed as being out-of-control beasts. Usually by anti-feminists, oddly enough.

Yeah. The idea that feminists think all men are monsters is projection like the world has never seen before.

gabrielleabelle February 24 2011, 01:54:04 UTC

I just hate people who rail against Spike's later arc. Their arguments invariably come down to, "HE'S SUCH A SISSY NOW!!" and they try to mask it in narrative criticisms by positing that it wasn't development but just plain woobiefication, but when you ask then what - structurally - was wrong with his arc, they'll just flail and go: "EMASCULATED!!!!!" and then I have to *headdesk*

pocochina February 24 2011, 04:07:26 UTC

which is a radical interpretation of the text at best. It'd be one thing to discuss if it was about S3-4, where the show played with gender through Spike, "love's bitch" and the chip jokes toward the middle of S4. But this is just straight-up HE DOESN'T MURDER WOMEN AND NOW HE SUCKS! I can't even.

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pocochina February 24 2011, 01:48:29 UTC

I KNOW! The amount of really brilliant, insightful stuff I've seen on journals - fuck, in comments on journals - and this is actually in a book somewhere.

Makes you appreciate new media, that's for damn sure.

delta_mai February 24 2011, 01:38:00 UTC

pocochina February 24 2011, 01:50:06 UTC

haha your icon and caption made me lol. YEAH SHE IS.

the comments are so encouraging, at least.

vamp_mogs February 24 2011, 01:51:45 UTC

I'm offended as a man and I can't believe this actually got published.

What I really don't get is how she doesn’t even just leave it at Angel, Riley, Xander and Spike. She talks about Buffy sucking away Faith and Willow's "testosterone." Huh? They have testosterone? Not only does that make absolutely no sense but it's also deeply offensive.

Oh, and she called Buffy "whiny" because she was upset in S2? Yeah, 'cause how dare Buffy be a little down after she slept with someone she loved and accidentally unleashed the "worst vampire on record" who's hell bent on mentally torturing her, killing her friends, and destroying the world. Suck it up princess! Ugh.

pocochina February 24 2011, 03:29:54 UTC

I don't even know what the mindset behind this is besides "HEY, MEN, THEY'RE ALL VIOLENT SOBs, AMIRITE, LADIES? ALL THE AWESOME ONES, ANYWAY!"

....no.

She talks about Buffy sucking away Faith and Willow's "testosterone." Huh? They have testosterone? Not only does that make absolutely no sense but it's also deeply offensive.

Yes, it's completely appalling. I mean, cracking that kind of gender-essentialist joke is hairy at best, but it's particularly disturbing to fling at Willow, given that that's usually a nasty thing people throw at lesbians in particular. It is completely unacceptable.