Danny Dyer Thinks ISIS Schoolgirl Should Return (to the UK) To Explain Her Actions

Feb 19, 2019 19:42

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Danny Dyer (a British actor known for his bluntness during interviews) has said that 19 year old ISIS bride Shamima Begum should be allowed to return to the UK to explain her actions.

Some context:
Begum was one of three teenage girls who left the UK in 2015 to join ISIL (she was 15 years old). She married a Dutch ISIS recruit, Yago Riedijk, and ( Read more... )

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inkstainedlips February 19 2019, 19:28:22 UTC
"She also said that seeing the head of a beheaded man for the first time left her unfazed"

Umm....

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frelling_tralk February 19 2019, 19:36:35 UTC
She’s also said that she considers the Manchester bombing to be fair retribution, and that she was fine with the beheadings of the journalists as they were probably spies. Even her own lawyer has said that he doesn’t understand where her comments are coming from, she comes across as doing everything she possibly can to not be allowed back

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picturemegone February 19 2019, 19:41:53 UTC
That's what I don't get. If she want's to go back why is she making so many comments that would prevent that from happening. It's so strange.

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frelling_tralk February 19 2019, 19:47:40 UTC
All I can think is that maybe she’s scared too say too much against ISIS until she’s safely back in the U.K.? Idk though, she certainly doesn’t seem remorseful at all, and I suspect that Danny Dyer would have a very different attitude about a 15 year old boy who ran away to join a terrorist organisation and celebrates beheadings (and she says herself that the videos of the beheadings were part of what convinced her to go to Syria in the first place???)

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sabrina54 February 19 2019, 19:28:48 UTC
She's a traumatized kid, she should be allowed back and put in lots and LOTS of therapy.

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thesugarman February 19 2019, 19:37:21 UTC
Therapy only works if you're an active participant in your own healing.

This girls doesn't want to heal. She's a complete sociopath (through brainwashing and trauma, yes, but the end result is the same) who has been completely explicit in her allegiance to religious fanaticism and terrorism.

She has absolutely no place in any civil, semi-lawful society, even one as fucked up as 2019 UK.

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sabrina54 February 19 2019, 19:57:48 UTC
That's a valid reaction but I believe in rehabilitation and seeing as she went in this at 15 I think she deserves a second chance. I think a good psychologist can help her work through what led her to join ISIL and deprogram her. Looking at the video she seems really traumatized and not in her right mind at all.

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teller5of5tales February 19 2019, 23:51:23 UTC
I guess that I am more in the middle. I don't think she should be allowed in the UK at this time, but *possibly* in the future. I think she would be in extensive thearpy for a year or two before even thinking of letting her come back.

I know that she was 15 years old, but that is definitely old enough to know right and wrong. She sought them out. I think it says a lot about a person who actively engages with these type of people/groups and activities.

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drfaith101 February 19 2019, 19:31:52 UTC
I dunno what the right or wrong thing to do is but I can't fathom ever not being frazed by someone being beheaded.

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starsaregas February 19 2019, 19:48:15 UTC
Mte

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emyouknit February 19 2019, 20:40:13 UTC
same...

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frenchoral February 19 2019, 19:31:58 UTC
I feel bad for her because she was clearly a child when this happened

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thealexandrie February 19 2019, 19:32:08 UTC
I want to know what led her to go to Syria in the first place. was she being abused at home and thought isis was a better option? was she being groomed by this guy online?

she was 15 but she was actively joined a murderous organization. we're the same age and of similar background but I can't imagine doing something like that. I don't think anyone's going to forgive her but I do feel bad for her for losing her children.

edit; I see that her mother was dying of cancer and these terrorists took advantage of her grief. that's terrible.

I wonder what's going to happen to her now that she's no longer a British citizen and has given up on isis. she's essentially stateless now, right?

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omnishambles February 19 2019, 20:12:02 UTC
I'm pretty sure her mother is still alive. There was a 4th friend in the group Sharmeena who left to join ISIS first and she was the girl who was manipulated in the aftermath of her mother's death. I guess Sharmeena was maybe radicalised first and then they all influenced each other as well as being brainwashed by ISIS members in contact with them. The whole situation is shitty.

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