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elisi May 13 2010, 13:48:17 UTC
You're back!!! *tacklehug* I've miiiiiiissed you!

Overall, the arc is over-hyped, under-plotted and it features the most embarassing panels in season 8. The nerdgasms are funny, but the rest is messy, clumsy and utterly silly.
And this is one of the reasons you've been missed. What a wonderful and concise review. ♥

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moscow_watcher May 13 2010, 14:05:21 UTC
*hugs back* Thank you for warm welcome, honey!

I was at vacation, and I missed all the drama. Pity I couldn't ask Meltzer if his Buffy is a Tolkien fan; but,maybe, it was for the better that I was mountain-climbing when the issue got released.

concise review.

Oh, I could rant and rant! Poor Buffy! Poor Angel! What has Meltzer done to them?!

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elisi May 13 2010, 14:10:36 UTC
but,maybe, it was for the better that I was mountain-climbing when the issue got released.
I think everyone envies you...

Oh, I could rant and rant! Poor Buffy! Poor Angel! What has Meltzer done to them?!
Clearly they're robots! That's the only way anything makes sense.

(Oh and if you're ever in an icon-making mood, I had a very cheeky idea here.)

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moscow_watcher May 13 2010, 14:19:32 UTC
Working on it! :)))

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moscow_watcher May 13 2010, 14:18:37 UTC
Thanks!

Angel makes a pretty crappy Lois Lane.

The whole idea to turn him into a Lois Lane is ludicrous. *le sigh*

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ubi4soft May 13 2010, 14:19:26 UTC
Good to have you back! Excellent review!

And, as predicted, on the last panel Spike arrives in a spaceship, or maybe a time machine. He looks like season 2 Spike: red shirt, black nail polish, rings on his fingers. "You wanna put these demons down and end this Twilight crap once and for all? You talk to me".

Jeanty said Joss wanted a Mad Max feeling for Spike, so they tried to copy that (including the line). Also stats blaming the colorist for black nail polish (not enough masculine according to Jeanty's standards)

See for yourself if he get it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj6XCV1hs_s

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norwie2010 May 13 2010, 14:49:43 UTC
Uh-uh - complete fail, i'd day. :D

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moscow_watcher May 13 2010, 15:31:19 UTC
Thank you!

Jeanty said Joss wanted a Mad Max feeling for Spike

Oh. This it their take on "Mad Max feeling"?

Also stats blaming the colorist for black nail polish (not enough masculine according to Jeanty's standards)

I remember a lot of specs about time-travel, about past!Spike, etc. And it just the colorist's idea. :)

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shipperx May 13 2010, 15:47:03 UTC
Oh. This it their take on "Mad Max feeling"?

It seemed closer to Buckaroo Bonzai.

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penny_lane_42 May 13 2010, 14:33:34 UTC
The decision to re-introduce Angel as Buffy's nemesis-cum-love-interest has a pragmatic side, because only Angel can get away with this kind of behavior. Anybody else - Spike, Xander, Riley, Giles - would have been ruined completely. But Angel has always had bigger moral leeway than anybody in Jossverse; he's redeemable in practically any situation.

On BtVS Angel has always been depicted as an archetypal romantic hero, a strong and mysterious male who had been making decisions for Buffy's good, whether it was his departure in season 3 or rewriting Buffy's life in IWRY. And it worked, because Buffy's relationship with Angel has always been presented within classic romantic traditions. While on AtS Angel has his token protagonist privilege: he regularly put the world in danger and the audience was still supposed to be on his side and forgive him.I just need to say a giant, "YES," to this. Because...yes. I hadn't thought of your first point--about anyone else being judged more harshly. But it's very true and a point that needed to be ( ... )

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moscow_watcher May 13 2010, 15:50:34 UTC
I think our fandom will survive in any situation. Actually, it could be worse: Meltzer could bring Spike to watch Bangel sex. But, apparently, Joss decided to tell Spike's story himself. Although I don't know if I should be happy or miserable. Given Joss' bent for creative tortures, I expect a lot of angst.

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infinitewhale May 13 2010, 17:41:24 UTC

Well, Meltzer was asked if the triangle would end and he said "do you want it to? time will tell."

I kind of take it to mean it won't if for no other reason to keep interest around for S9. It's pretty obvious they actually have no ideas for the characters *themselves* and are just content playing with ships and provocative images.

Of course he said lots of things that made absolutely no sense in regards to that arc, so who knows.

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penny_lane_42 May 13 2010, 17:48:54 UTC
Oh, I'm certain that it will. I just like the idea of the whole underdog thing making people more involved. It's a lovely thought. :D

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shipperx May 13 2010, 14:36:37 UTC
Overall, the arc is over-hyped, under-plotted and it features the most embarassing panels in season 8. The nerdgasms are funny, but the rest is messy, clumsy and utterly silly.

You're being so diplomatic about it! My comments usually end up with synonyms for excrement. >:)

Glad to have you back!

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moscow_watcher May 13 2010, 15:55:15 UTC
*hugs*

I have to admit that I heavily edited the review before posting. *shrugs*
I reread the issue 3 times. I tried to condition myself to positivity, but with each reading the story became sillier and sillier...

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