some pub help...

[spikesgirl58]

I started this conversation with Beanie and then Rosy offered some suggestions, so I thought I would open it up a bit more.

I am taking part in the ‘Into a bar’ challenge.  In which a character of your choice walks into a bar and meets a character from the list of fandoms you are comfortable writing in.

My choice was Steel walking into a bar

Comments

[snailbones]

You'd just ask for either a 'half' or a 'pint', and it'd come in a glass mug with a handle, or possibly a straight-sided glass. You could ask for lager, draught or bitter, but you wouldn't ask for ale - so it'd be 'Two pints of beer please, whatever you've got on tap.' And it might be slightly chilled or room temperature.

Hope that helps a tad.

[spikesgirl58]

It helps a lot, thank you!

I don't think Steel would know anything about alcohol, but I want Jackie to sound right. This is brilliant!

[bluemeanybeany]

Inherent sexism alert, but as a woman in her 40s Jackie is unlikely to order a pint. She will most likely get red wine.

p.s how have you never been into a bar!

[togsos]

i think jackie would be a pint of cider type of woman

[bluemeanybeany]

ordinarily yes cause shes fun, but not if she's trying to flirt with a good looking man like Steel. If I was flirting with a man in a suit I'd ask for a glass of wine.

[spikesgirl58]

I wasn't sure I'd ever seen her order beer for herself, but the drink is for Steel. I didn't mention hers, so I will go the wine route with her.

I'm serious - I've never been in a proper bar. I've been in pubs, but it was a very different situation as we were there for food before a show... never a night out with friends or coworkers.

[bluemeanybeany]

On a work night out I would expect this to be a general drinks list consumption of a female; G&T, Pimms, a pint of cider, barcardi and coke, a glass of white wine.

If there's a club after 11 you can add three shots and a bottle of WKD to that list.

I'm assuming you have the round buying system in America yes?..although if you've never been in a bar maybe not.

you don't purchase just your own drink there will be in your group 4-8 "trips to the bar" and one/two people go to the bar to buy all the drinks for everyone in the group while the rest of the group keeps the table.

For the round buying system it's best to take a 30 quid to the bar with you.

[spikesgirl58]

Yes, there is something about buying rounds, I know we routinely buy a bottle of wine for the table when we are out with friends for dinner.

I can't see Steel buying a round for Jackie, but it is smirk-worthy thought...

"What do ya mean, you're broke!"

[bluemeanybeany]

just fyi I would say that generally in a mixed set group of co-workers [where there is no possible dating implications at all] it would generally be considered that a man would buy the first round.

Except if the numbers are massively uneven. If it's 5 girls to 1 boy for example a girl would buy first. I dont know why I just think it works that way if it was me on my own with 4 lads I would feel miffed if I had to go and get the first or even second drinks.

oh Line Managers and Senior Managers buy more earlier and more often for obvious reasons of having more money.

[bluemeanybeany]

Just a little bit of Trivia for you and it's a science fiction related.

One of my favourite pub names is called "The Man on the Moon" like for centuries it used to called "The Man in the Moon" and have that classic traditional drawing on the Man in the Moon for it's pub sign. But then on July 20th 1969 it had an party and officially renamed itself "The Man on the Moon" and got at NASA moon astronaut as it's pub sign. I like that you name a pub and then hundreds of years later the reality becomes cooler.

Man on the Moon pub sign. Epic!

[spikesgirl58]

I have to confess that I had a soft spot for The Slug and Lettuce pub where we went for lunch one day - we had to go next door because we had our 14 year old GD with us... but it was still a way cool name!

[bluemeanybeany]

Can we also embrace the awesomeness of the pub name "Portman and Pickles" in Yorkshire. Which sounds ye olde pub foodie, but in actually named for two Yorkshiremen - the film actor Eric Portman and Wilfred Pickles, a radio announcer during the war who was picked for his Yorkshire accent because it was harder for the Nazis to imitate than Queen's English - hence it was easy to tell who to trust because regional accents can only be done by regional Brits of trustworthness. Again, epic name for a pub.

All pubs should have a story behind the name.

Have I told you why the place I live [for a week or two anyway] is called Nunhead - the area is named after the pub. And the pub is named after a sexual act two members of the clergy were supposed to have performed in the pub in the Middle Ages.

[spikesgirl58]

Where is the pub located? Is in in London? I need it to be relatively close to where Jackie lives.

Also, what sort of accent would Jackie have?

[bluemeanybeany]

Oh Jackie is so very South London. Her and Rose live on an estate, I think US word for estate is "the projects"

Poor people live in South London [I live in South London] Rich people don't often come south of the River. Steel's accent is North London - McCallum is a posh little thing. Jackie is more a Chav.

[spikesgirl58]

I remember a comment about Rose being a Chav in the New Earth episode. Funniest scene ever when Cassandra leaps into The Doctor...

I figured that was an estate was like a project or tenements from what we saw on the Christmas special.

Of course, Steel isn't either, not really.