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gehayi December 19 2011, 11:58:20 UTC
Well, here's a translated quotation. I don't know how accurate the translation is, but it's from the Book of Women 4:93

Whoso slayeth a believer of set purpose, his reward is hell for ever. Allah is wroth against him and He hath cursed him and prepared for him an awful doom.

If the guy sells the dagger knowing that it's cursed and that the other guy will kill, he's deliberately acting to make it possible for someone to kill. By the same token, the purchaser is just as responsible if he knows that the dagger is cursed and that he'll kill with it. (I'm assuming the purchaser is a Muslim.)

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silverwerecat December 19 2011, 13:40:50 UTC
Thanks. I've found that passage, although in a slightly different wording. What I'm unsure of is how he'd bring that up during their exchange. Would it be like, "The Quran says this and this, so I can't sell it to you?"

Oh, and the purchaser is not Muslim, but the merchant does not know this, so he'd assume that he's Muslim and fits this part.

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enleve December 19 2011, 20:43:11 UTC
There's a part of the Quran or Hadith that is something like, if you see an evil, stop it with your hand. If you can't stop it with your hand, stop it with your mouth. If you can't stop it with your mouth, then know in your heart that it is wrong.

In other words, prevent bad things from happening by doing something or speaking out, or if you can't do that, at least recognize that it is wrong (don't dismiss it or lie to yourself.)

It seems like it might be applicable to this situation.

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mahasin December 19 2011, 14:36:46 UTC
The book can be on display but it has to be on the highest possible shelves with no other books higher than it. Merchant can only handle it after being cleansed properly and can only handle it in his right hand.

As far as two is concerned, as a former Muslim, I'd have to say no, but I was a modern Muslim, so I can't say it wouldn't be done, just that no one I know would do that, including the religious leaders I know.

3. There are passages about the rules of war, which basically says that you can only attack those who are actively engaged in battle, that prevents the killing of women, children and people who are innocent (ie, you may not harm the man who works in the fields), though I don't know the exact location.

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silverwerecat December 19 2011, 14:45:49 UTC
Thank you. That pretty much clears up 1 & 2.

As for 3, I'm mostly interested in how this could be written out in a believable dialogue line from a Muslim individual's POV (Which I'm not, obviously, and that's why I'm struggling with it).

(Btw, that's one seriously adorable kitten in your icon).

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fithablink December 19 2011, 15:00:46 UTC
As for number 1, I know some people will kiss Quran as sign of respect and love.

For number 2, in my country (which is Indonesia by the way) there are some people (not modern Muslim, mostly) believe that Quran will usher bad things away (bad genie, evil stuffs, demons and such). Maybe you can use this somehow.

Agree with mahasin for number three. Plus as far as I know you can only kill to defend yourself (if your life is at stake too).

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silverwerecat December 19 2011, 15:02:41 UTC
Thank you! That really helps. :)

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stormwreath December 19 2011, 15:23:19 UTC
Regarding the phrasing of 3, it's maybe a little hokey and clichéd, but could you say something like,

"Is it not written, 'Whoever kills a believer intentionally - his recompense is Hell'?"

The assumption would be that "it is written" in the Qu'ran, so you don't need to spell it out. (And a pious Muslim should recognise the quote anyway, without needing the source.)

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silverwerecat December 19 2011, 15:26:03 UTC
Thanks, that gives me something I can work with. :)

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