Ah, nostalgia.

Jun 17, 2007 20:00

Posts like these make me think back to my days in 2005 when I was a carefree, easy-going type pro-choicer. You know, before I got bitter and blunt and angry. Mostly it's because of all the surprise expressed in there. They probably thought that the lifers on Gaia were above being against comprehensive sex ed and acting like rape is as trivial as ( Read more... )

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anandrine June 18 2007, 00:21:06 UTC
it's very hard for me now to hear of someone I know being pro-life without getting the urge to punch them in the face.

Oh, god, I am completely the same way, although I'm still in the "feeling guilty" stage. There are some people online who I think are otherwise completely awesome, and I try not to judge them based on this, but as soon as I hear that they're pro-life, my respect for them drops immensely. I just don't understand how someone who is otherwise an intelligent person can identify as pro-life.

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estelendur June 18 2007, 00:58:44 UTC
Actually, yesterday I saw Theo [a friend from Ring] wearing a pro-life shirt, and my respect for him hasn't dropped at all; I don't know, it might be different on the interwebs, or maybe I'm just good at sheltering myself. But I've discussed religious stuff with Theo before and I know he's intelligent and has a life outside of religion (though he is/did convert to Catholicism from, I don't know, Episcopalianism).

Maybe I'm just really sheltered from blockheads who aren't Avery. ^^;

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estelendur June 18 2007, 01:05:21 UTC
Counter this, please. Logical argument is not my strong suit.

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limepocky June 18 2007, 02:20:12 UTC
Sure thing. ;D *cracks knuckles*

Any use of "you" or its permutations is general.

Babies are being slaughtered.

The term is fetus, not baby. Your arguments won't look any better using pseudoaccurate terms that evoke images of a pink, soft, warm, cute little infant, when that isn't what's being aborted.

We know what an apple is

...What the hell? What's this shit about apples? His argument is doing well already; apparently, his strategy is to completely confuse his opponents into a state of being unable to reply to the absurdity of what he's saying.

[snipped #2,#3 and #4]

This just sounds like an excuse to ignore the information we shove down their ear canals every single time they try to argue. I'm getting what he's saying now, but all it sounds like is "since we can't ever truly know something, we should just ignore everything we think is true and just try to work with morality" which does not work. There is no such thing as universal morality, no matter how you twist it. There will always be someone who does not think rape or ( ... )

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limepocky June 18 2007, 02:21:23 UTC
The legal premise is that the law must protect the most basic human rights.

Hey, we agree on something. Except he's applying it to wrong thing.

See this?

That's Mcfall vs. Shimp.

Summary: Mcfall needs bone marrow, or he'll die. Shimp is a perfect match for donation. But Shimp doesn't want to undergo dangerous and possibly altering surgery to save his cousin. Here is an excerpt from the above link:

"The question posed by the Plaintiff is that, in order to save the life of one of its members by the only means available, may society infringe upon one's absolute right to his "bodily security"?

The common law has consistently held to a rule which provides that one human being is under no legal compulsion to give aid or to take action to save that human being or to rescue.

Emphasis mine. This is an excerpt from the judge's ruling:

"For a society which respects the rights of one individual, to sink its teeth into the jugular vein or neck of one of its members and suck from it sustenance for another member, is revolting to our hard- ( ... )

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estelendur June 18 2007, 02:45:26 UTC
Cancer is human too, you know. It has human DNA. Should cancer get rights?
*giggles* ^^

Oh yay, a legal precedent! :D

Maybe you should, I don't know, email him or something.

*saves*

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