Comments | kajivar: Star Trek

kajivar

Star Trek

May 18, 2009 15:40

OK, so, Star Trek.

I was highly skeptical and downright flaily as the movie was announced and cast and developed. The cast seemed good talent-wise, but this was Trek, dammit. Leave it as it is and GET OFF MY LAWN. I watched the original series en utero, for crying out loud (thanks, Mom!). Then I watched it in syndication over and over and over ( Read more... )

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shieldhaven May 18 2009, 20:20:28 UTC

In talking about The Khan Issue last night, I theorized that Prime!Spock would have to be seriously tempted to just go shiv young!Khan and save everyone a lot of trouble. (Not that he would; this is still an ultimately moral Star Trek.)

kajivar May 18 2009, 20:23:34 UTC

Well, there's moral, and then there's logical.

Khan caused many deaths, including his own (though he got better), which led to the murder of Kirk's son David as well. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Quoth Spock, "Eat my shorts!" traceroo May 18 2009, 20:40:08 UTC

"No, not this time."

Clearly in contention for my favorite line, next to, "Out of the chair."

T$

nomadmwe May 18 2009, 20:36:17 UTC

He can't even go try and get new regulations passed that involve what to do when you recover ships containing angry supersoldiers, 'cause Kirk would just ignore them anyway.

darthrami May 18 2009, 20:26:00 UTC

The "Open in case of Khan" would say, "Don't maroon him on Ceti Alpha V. Just kill him. Trust me on this one, trust me."

hahahaha.

And the "SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCK!" a la "KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAN" I loooooved.

dragonsinger May 18 2009, 20:27:41 UTC

I'm so glad you liked it.:)

bad_in_plaid May 18 2009, 20:27:53 UTC

The next movie is going to be "Wrath of Nero".

Wanna bet?

Various & Sundry traceroo May 18 2009, 20:39:06 UTC

I'm so happy that you enjoyed it! I'd have felt like a real slug for recommending it to you so highly if you hadn't approved after all... total geek whack-out planetary physics notwithstanding! I mean, c'mon! Would it really be Star Trek if there weren't some physics/canon impossibility thrown in there to keep geeks debating in geek-bars?

Speaking of which, Ian and I have been debating the Kobayashi Maru. On my first viewing, prior to the revelation that this is an alternate reality, I was not happy that Kirk was about to take the test the third time. I thought it was a fairly important plot point that he had "never faced death" with the test because he reprogrammed it and beat it. I felt that implied that he never took the test the normal way. Ian vehemently disagrees with me. You'd think this is another American Civil War in this household!

Trace

Re: Various & Sundry mkanoap May 19 2009, 00:34:04 UTC

I'm afraid that Ian is right. That the same movie that said he "had never faced death" also established that he took the test three times. Spock says to Kirk:
The Kobayashi Maru scenario frequently wreaks havoc with students and equipment. As I recall you took the test three times yourself. Your final solution was, shall we say, unique?

Kirk never faced death because he didn't accept the validity of the test. That's why he took it two more times, cheating on the third.

Re: Various & Sundry traceroo May 19 2009, 12:18:49 UTC

Aw man! Well, let's just not tell Ian, shall we? ;)

Trace

Re: Various & Sundry kajivar May 19 2009, 02:32:10 UTC

You still totally owe me a bad recommendation, though, since I recommended Seven to you. ;)

I gotta side with Ian. He took the test, failed, tried it again, realized there was no way to beat it, and reprogrammed the simulator for the third try. He didn't face death because he refused to accept the test.

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