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jaimeykay February 6 2009, 03:20:51 UTC
"In a lot of ways I don't even know if Dean is glad to be back. That Sam is glad to HAVE him back."

"Fuck. I guess I need to watch a season-two ep again or something. Because I need to remember when the boys didn't just love each other, but actually, um. Liked each other, too."

Honey, you just summed up how I've felt about season four. :(

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janissa11 February 6 2009, 03:43:44 UTC
I'm pretty much to the point of actively disliking Sam. And that's just -- ugh, I don't WANT to.

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janissa11 February 6 2009, 04:12:05 UTC
I am feeling much the same way. *nod*

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oselle February 6 2009, 03:23:06 UTC
If I liked this ep, why do I feel so BAD now?

Because Sam up and spilled the beans about how he really feels about having Dean back? And it was sort of what we've been suspecting all along?

Nevertheless, Bobby's Wall O'Phones FTW!!!

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janissa11 February 6 2009, 03:46:47 UTC
Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. When I think about the fan stories written last summer, so many versions of how MUCH Sam missed Dean, how very carefully he took care of shell-shocked post-Hell Dean -- and how...canon is nothing like that. Nothing at all.

And after all of the expose of Nick saying how all Dean wanted was Sam. And Sam doesn't WANT Dean back. A la Asylum, in venom veritas.

Avoiding the obvious and tired Wincest references, that is a soul-deep hurting there.

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oselle February 6 2009, 04:18:19 UTC
canon is nothing like that. Nothing at all.

Maybe that's why they did it. Maybe they wanted to do something that people really didn't expect.

And you know, I don't have a problem with that. I'm all for the show taking risks and not being predictable. But what bothers me is that I feel like Sam's turnabout is being portrayed as if Sam is justified, as if he's right. As if we're supposed to agree with him. Maybe it's just that I get a little defensive when it comes to Dean but...when is Sam going to get some kind of correction over this? Sam said some horrible shit to Dean in this episode and none of it was even true. Dean's been whining about Hell? Really? He mentioned it twice. Dean's weak? Why? Because he doesn't think that his brother should be fucking a demon and taking lessons from her?

At this point I wish Dean would just go and shack up with Bobby for a while and let Sam be with Ruby because that's clearly what he wants.

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janissa11 February 6 2009, 04:45:51 UTC
At this point I wish Dean would just go and shack up with Bobby for a while and let Sam be with Ruby because that's clearly what he wants.

That stirs up all kinds of images for me. I keep thinking about a Dean who sleeps all the time. At Bobby's, fiddling with a car for half an hour and sleeping the rest of the day. And then pulling himself together and going on a solo hunt.

Thing is, I can't imagine him doing it. But I WANT to.

WHERE THE FUCK IS CASTIEL WHEN HE'S NEEDED.

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lemmypie February 6 2009, 03:24:40 UTC
The show is evol and has us all in it's CLUTCHES!!!! That is why you loved the episode but hurt now much now.

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janissa11 February 6 2009, 03:48:17 UTC
I think they run a risk, though, of making Sam too much of a self-righteous proud bastard. There is very, very little TO like in Sam these days. Dean ain't perfect, but he ain't Sam's level of SOB.

::heavy sigh, for real:: I dunno, am unsettled.

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lemmypie February 6 2009, 04:20:51 UTC
That is part of his slide, that slippery slope.
It's not subtle the writers are playing at.

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janissa11 February 6 2009, 03:51:26 UTC
I hope that if they go where it appears they're going, they'll at least resolve it without whoring Dean out. I would be satisfied with Sam going evil if Dean grows a spine and stands up to him. THAT would be satisfying.

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ulkis February 6 2009, 03:39:01 UTC
I think Sam is glad to have Dean back, but I think, even if deep down he doesn't want Dean with him per se he's happy Dean's not in hell. They just have to get to know one another again, I guess, like they did in season 1.

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janissa11 February 6 2009, 03:53:16 UTC
I assume Sam's at least glad Dean is no longer in Hell (even if his comment about Dean whining about Hell was so incredibly unfair, since Sam ASKED about it).

The rest, I dunno. Neither guy smells like roses these days, but Sam takes the cake for asshole of the week, for sure.

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