Be careful what you wish for...

Oct 19, 2012 23:04

That awkward moment when, after ten months of persuasion, you finally manage to convince your best mate (and someone you know has fangirling tendencies, and who you have every reason to suspect will be a pilots shipper) to watch Battlestar Galactica ( Read more... )

shippiness, it's my lj and i'll vent if i want to, pilots, oh le sigh

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workerbee73 October 19 2012, 14:01:30 UTC
OUCH. Just... ouch.

I'm so sorry dude.

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im_ridiculous October 19 2012, 19:48:49 UTC
I can't lie: this has been a somewhat depressing and wholly unexpected turn of events, yes......

I wanted to grab her by the shoulders, shake her violently and yell, ''HOW THE HELL CAN YOU, 'NOT SEE IT'?!? WHAT THE F#@$ ARE YOU EVEN SAYING RIGHT NOW. YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE (AND NO I DON'T MEAN EPISCOPALIAN.) DID OUR SQUEEING OVER JOSH AND DONNA MEAN NOTHING TO YOU? I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO YOU ARE ANYMORE.''

But I wasn't sure that would help the cause...

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workerbee73 October 20 2012, 14:15:02 UTC
Shipping is such an unpredictable science. :(

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im_ridiculous October 21 2012, 07:48:27 UTC
Sigh, alas and alack - it really is.
That said... I saw her last night and got some more info. It seems she may not be 'not seeing' it, so much as she seems a bit stuck on the 'but she was in love with his brother' thing...

I feel we can work with that, me and show. I remain hopeful that UB and the hard-deck and associated fallout may bring her over to the right side ;P

... It's actually hilarious the extent to which I'm invested in this. Thank god for my fandom friends at least! hee hee :)

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anuna_81 October 19 2012, 14:18:50 UTC
WHUT? Lee is freakin' awesome, and probably the only person who had the guts to say "we were wrong to do that stuff" on Baltar's trial. After which everyone CONDEMNED HIM SO HARD. But you know what folks, a wrong isn't any less wrong just because it suits you.

Roslyn? Ugh, no. I kind of see why people go bananas over her but I don't like her one bit. Give me Lee/Kara any day.

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im_ridiculous October 19 2012, 19:59:01 UTC
I. KNOW!!!! He is SO interesting, he's all with the morally conflicted, and the compulsion to do The Right Thing, and he's got all this latent rage just simmering under the surface under control most of the time and THE TRIAL! Yes, you people don't want to hear this, but bad fucking luck. I just... I love him so much.

As for Adama and Laura... Ugh. I really liked her in season 1, and a bit of season 2, but I seriously disliked her by the end too!! And I guess I was kinda happy for her and Adama, but in a detached, 'yeah whatevs' kinda way, y'know? I was just a bit bored by them, really.

I guess on the upside, she also said, 'But that Sam is a bit pointless too isn't he? Like, he's a bit pathetic.' So, y'know, at least we can share our hatred of Sam I guess, but....

OH LE SIGH!!!

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kdbleu October 19 2012, 22:17:48 UTC
Roslyn? Ugh, no. I kind of see why people go bananas over her but I don't like her one bit.

Secretly, I want to ask those who really love Laura why cuz I never got it. At all. *blushes*

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themonkeytwin October 20 2012, 01:13:58 UTC
Heh, do you want to ask me? No judging, no proselytizing, promise. ;) I explain a little bit in my comment below, if it helps.

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kdbleu October 19 2012, 14:39:57 UTC
You know, I get that not everyone is going to love Lee Adama like I do, and I loved him from the moment the canopy went up on his viper, but I have never understood thinking Lee in bland or boring. Really? Especially someone who ships Roslin and Adama who I find to be the most uninteresting, inevitable ship ever!

I will pray for your UB conversion, but your friend will just think stoned Roslin and Adama is too cute for words. *rolls eyes* and *giggles*

BTW, I'm pretty sure this is why I've never tried to get anyone to watch BSG with me. hee.

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im_ridiculous October 19 2012, 20:09:05 UTC
Especially someone who ships Roslin and Adama who I find to be the most uninteresting, inevitable ship ever!
OMG I KNOW!!!! PREACH SISTA, PREACH!!!

And I hadn't even thought of stoned Adama and Roslin.... aaaaaaahh crap. You are so right *facepalm* I remember monkeytwin telling me she'd only really been pushed into shipper territory post-poof, because then it became a justice issue for her... But I think it's too much to hope that particular bolt of lighting could strike twice. I *g*

And dude, there is literally NO ONE else in the rl world I would have expected a pilots shipper response from, but the two of us are so freakishly and consistently the same about so many things, already it's vaguely disconcerting to feel strongly about something when she's 'meh'....... the being A/R and Lee-is-boring though... *hangs head* Why universe? How did I fail thee?? :)

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kdbleu October 19 2012, 22:09:36 UTC
I actually know of a few pilot shippers who full on converted from A/R shipper post poof because of the injustice, because they thought Lee and Kara were the inevitable OTP of the show and actually rewatched as full on K/L shippers so there's kind of hope.

Stoned Roslin and Adams make me laugh but it's also the point at which, looking back, I realize that TPTB were going to have them make some incredibly inappropriate and kind of irresponsible choices going forward. Because I don't think acting like love sick teenagers when you're the leaders of humanities remnants in cute or clever.

On the other hand, I do think that saying 'frak it, it's the end of the worlds, I'm going to love my brother's fiancé/fiancé’s brother' is perfectly reasonable. ;)

I was going to make my husband watch BSG with me. I still think he would enjoy it, but he's simply not a shipper and I'm pretty darned sure Kara and Lee would drive him up a wall so I kept BSG to myself. bwa-ha-ha!

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im_ridiculous October 21 2012, 07:32:41 UTC
Hey! Can I tell you, I am finding it very encouraging that late pilots conversions seem to be a bit of A Thing. I have all fingers and toes crossed!! It sounds like she's almost up to UB, so...... we shall see. I shall report back should conversion ensue! :)

I'm with you on stoned Roslin and Adama, actually. It really pissed me off for sort of ill-defined and probably illegitimate reasons. I just... I guess everyone has a right to a blowout, to be irresponsible sometimes, and I guess they were both in need of a blowout and they thought they were safe and everything, but... yeah. No. Not good enough. You're not teenagers. Bleugh. Admitedly, I was watching UB through my OMGPILOTS prism, so really anything on screen that was Not Them was bound to piss me off really!!

On the other hand, I do think that saying 'frak it, it's the end of the worlds, I'm going to love my brother's fiancé/fiancé’s brother' is perfectly reasonable. ;)*high fives, standing ovation* EXACTLY ( ... )

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themonkeytwin October 20 2012, 01:03:46 UTC
Ha, well, not only was I fully converted after the poof, I started off as a Bill/Laura shipper (ish - the pairing intrigued me, but I wasn't hardcore about any ship, really). And that was definitely strongest in S1&2. But then, the whole of S3 was a gradual "Oh, what-the-frak-ever" slide for me, to the point where I stopped watching at the end of S3 and only came back years later when I had nothing much else to watch. (My YOU ARE JERKING ME AROUND radar is pretty sensitive, which is why I couldn't force myself past the third episode of LOST, and that was on dvd, with the next episode sitting there ready to go. I think the only reason I even got through S3 of BSG was the level of good faith they'd built up in S1.)

I don't know if that'll help you, though, because I did see the K/L potential from 33 (if I'd started watching at the mini, I'm sure I would have seen it there too), it's just that I found the power plays in B/L more interesting. I liked Kara and Lee as characters, but felt like they were the "kids", in a way, which is less ( ... )

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im_ridiculous October 20 2012, 05:15:00 UTC
Ok, quick comment cos I'm back in the home town this wknd and running around like a headless chook (I'll be back with more when I can!).....

BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY VERY REASSURING THANKING YOU!!

Maybe there's hope yet. I shall remember that when I catch up with her tonight... try and keep myself from throttling her! :D

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im_ridiculous October 21 2012, 07:44:34 UTC
OK. Back home and back on lj... because I am clearly addicted...eesh. Oh well ( ... )

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themonkeytwin October 22 2012, 07:12:28 UTC
Back home and back on lj... because I am clearly addicted...eesh.

You're not alone. *solidarity*

Oh, and she thinks Sam is boring and she hates Dee.

\o/ Definitely hope there. :D

The funny thing about all that for me is that I find him SO accessible. And relatable. He just speaks to me, leaps off the screen at me, in fact. Don't know why, really... just a gut thing, maybe.

Yes, this seems to be the case for a lot of Lee!girls (I'm assuming you're okay with being called that?), I see that around a reasonable amount among pilotshippers. Being late to that particular party myself, all I can do is offer that perspective, really, that for a lot of us it did take time, and those are the reasons why. Personally, I feel like of the main, series-long cast, he and Tigh are the only ones who really came into their own as it progressed (rather than the other way around, like Laura, or remained steady, like Adama, Kara, Helo). So if your friend is following my trajectory, she'll start warming to Lee more through the end of S3 and into 4.

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