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englishmann in history_boys

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May 20, 2007 18:11

First post, n00b, hiya and all that.

I've got two questions:

1. Does anyone know Irwin's first name? Is it "Tom," or is that just fanon?

2. How about the piece that Lockwood quotes at one point, saying "England, you been here too long, and songs you sung..." etc? I'm dying to find out what that's from.

Cheers.

Jenn

poetry, questions, canon

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o_chan May 20 2007, 23:37:11 UTC

MCMXIV is the other one the boys quoted about the war.

Never such innocence,
Never before or since,
As changed itself to past
Without a word--the men
Leaving the gardens tidy,
The thousands of marriages
Lasting a little while longer:
Never such innocence again.

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o_chan May 21 2007, 00:14:14 UTC

yeah, i know that.. but she asked for a different poem..
*points up* 2. How about the piece that Lockwood quotes at one point, saying "England, you been here too long, and songs you sung..." etc? I'm dying to find out what that's from.

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englishmann May 21 2007, 01:41:13 UTC

lmao. I really should proofread before I post.

robin_2370_hood May 21 2007, 02:08:35 UTC

I hate to sound weird, but how do you know this? Did you make it up? I feel somewhat like an idiot for asking, but for the sake of my fangirlish knowledge, I must.

englishmann May 21 2007, 02:12:48 UTC

They're kidding. The original text of my post said "first time" instead of "first name" because I'm a moron prone to both typos and, it seems, Freudian slips.

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Re: from the script of the play englishmann May 21 2007, 01:58:52 UTC

Of that fame, but that's not what the quote is from, and that's where I'm stumbling.

Re: from the script of the play amehanashi May 21 2007, 02:13:56 UTC

Alan Bennett mentions "Voices against England in the Night" in the Acknowledgements page of the play. And in IMDB, that title is also in THB's Company Credits page. So maybe that's the one?

Re: from the script of the play englishmann May 21 2007, 02:18:22 UTC

I think that's it!! THANK YOU! I really do hate to be a bore on the topic, but I'm a lit!geek and can't help myself.

Now, to find a copy...

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englishmann May 21 2007, 02:19:42 UTC

Yes. I'm currently googling like a monster.

nellie_darlin May 31 2007, 14:45:42 UTC

As far as I can remember, "Tom" is film canon, not play canon, although I'm not 100% certain... Only 95%!

And I think they've found the Stevie Smith poem...

englishmann June 1 2007, 00:59:26 UTC

They have. This post is a week and a half old.

But, interesting. I don't remember any mention of "Tom" in the film.