(Couldn't comment at the dr.who comm, so I backtracked here!)
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Wow. This is a great (mind-boggling) review/analysis. It will be fascinating to see how these themes and motifs play out in the remainder of the season.
It took me a third viewing to realize that it was the Doctor who locked the Tardis when Amy and Rory were inside...I assumed it was the House. And again this week he wanted them out of his way...
Your comparison with creatures of myth and talking animals made me think of Strawberry/Fledge from "The Magician's Nephew."
I also heard the line as "you were the only one mad enough." (Although "man" does make for an interesting interpretation re: the aloof saintliness of the Time Lords in general
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Thank you very much! I am surprised that the themes and motifs that I saw in the first episode have reached epic proportions already this series. I can't wait to see where they go in terms of River and the Silence.
Yes, the Doctor's behavior with Amy and Rory is very interesting. He's forsaking his role as their guide, and that is probably why his identity is cracking. He'll have to fix that.
So many talking animals in great stories. So much of a rich tradition.
Yes, "man"/"mad". I actually prefer these two interpretations to coexist in my brain. I love where they overlap. :)
Oh, yes, absolutely! I guess I liked the MGM movie enough as a kid, but the books were always first in my heart. And now, I actually hate the MGM movie. It totally missed the boat, in my mind.
The subtitles state it's 'mad enough'. :) But it's an interesting interpretation nonetheless!
I loved reading this and how the Doctor's refusal to take Amy and Rory with him meant they were trapped in the depths of their own psyche, facing their worst fears. (We saw Amy's because I think we already know Rory's.)
Yes, problem with my posting my brilliant thoughts and being a smug literary bastard is that, when I make a mistake, half a million people correct me. As with the "man"/"mad" thing. :)
But, you know what, I want both those lines/interpretations to exist forever together in ambiguity in my brain, because I like that overlap. I think it speaks volumes in and of itself.
I meant to say that I also like how you linked the 'reappearance' of the Time War and Ten's issues with the reappearance of the old console room. Eleven really did regress in this episode, despite Amy's warning not to get emotional ("because that's when you make mistakes"). As she tells Rory, "He's not trusting us and he's being emotional. This is bad, this is very, very bad!" But how could he not regress when he might get his old playmates back? *sigh*
Yes, and Amy's words sound very much like River's back in Silence in the Library when she meets Ten. Ten, the emotional one. Eleven is the one that Amy and River know the best, and they don't like seeing him act so "human". I find that fascinating.
Will need to reread again to absorb it all. I love the starting idea of DW as a Greek Tragedy (am taking a paper in Tragedy at the moment), and it's an idea which I think merits further exploration. I've been thinking a lot about Idris' perception of Time and how it affects her, and the similarities between her and Cassandra.
Yes, I can see the similarities between the TARDIS and Cassandra, particularly when the Doctor isn't listening to her predictions. And this, of course, has a deeper meaning into his identity and his journies through time. I am loving the Greek aspect of this sixth series.
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Here via who_daily:
Wow. This is a great (mind-boggling) review/analysis. It will be fascinating to see how these themes and motifs play out in the remainder of the season.
It took me a third viewing to realize that it was the Doctor who locked the Tardis when Amy and Rory were inside...I assumed it was the House. And again this week he wanted them out of his way...
Your comparison with creatures of myth and talking animals made me think of Strawberry/Fledge from "The Magician's Nephew."
I also heard the line as "you were the only one mad enough." (Although "man" does make for an interesting interpretation re: the aloof saintliness of the Time Lords in general ( ... )
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Yes, the Doctor's behavior with Amy and Rory is very interesting. He's forsaking his role as their guide, and that is probably why his identity is cracking. He'll have to fix that.
So many talking animals in great stories. So much of a rich tradition.
Yes, "man"/"mad". I actually prefer these two interpretations to coexist in my brain. I love where they overlap. :)
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Oh, yes, absolutely! I guess I liked the MGM movie enough as a kid, but the books were always first in my heart. And now, I actually hate the MGM movie. It totally missed the boat, in my mind.
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The subtitles state it's 'mad enough'. :) But it's an interesting interpretation nonetheless!
I loved reading this and how the Doctor's refusal to take Amy and Rory with him meant they were trapped in the depths of their own psyche, facing their worst fears. (We saw Amy's because I think we already know Rory's.)
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But, you know what, I want both those lines/interpretations to exist forever together in ambiguity in my brain, because I like that overlap. I think it speaks volumes in and of itself.
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Will need to reread again to absorb it all. I love the starting idea of DW as a Greek Tragedy (am taking a paper in Tragedy at the moment), and it's an idea which I think merits further exploration. I've been thinking a lot about Idris' perception of Time and how it affects her, and the similarities between her and Cassandra.
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Yes, I can see the similarities between the TARDIS and Cassandra, particularly when the Doctor isn't listening to her predictions. And this, of course, has a deeper meaning into his identity and his journies through time. I am loving the Greek aspect of this sixth series.
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