Invincible review, part 1 - oh so many spoilers

May 15, 2008 16:59

You all know the drill. Spoilers and snark ahead. Gotta squeeze some fun out of this series somehow.

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carrole May 16 2008, 00:32:38 UTC
Oh my gosh, I am reccing this review to everyone I know. I <3 your reviews, especially because you are so RIGHT ON.

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gabri_jade May 17 2008, 03:29:03 UTC
You're too nice to me, Carr. :D

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persephone_kore May 16 2008, 00:53:26 UTC
I am favorably inclined toward the Verpines for no better reason than that they show up in Dark Rendezvous, which may be why I am a bit grumpy about Jaina not only not helping the wounded, but apparently stomping all over them on her way to Fett!

I forgive the pet name on the theory that she did not in fact think he was dead, but thought calling him that would tick him off enough that he'd be sure to yell at her even if he wouldn't respond otherwise. Or at least that's what I'm going to pretend.

Smashing nanotech into the walls with air to deactivate it: not sure about this, but I was weirdly fond of Jaina and Jacen's ability to move molecules around to heat the air or freeze water in Crystal Star. So... um... I'm not sure I actually had a point there.

Also, I bet there are a whole lot of people in the galaxy who say things like "Good luck, kid."

I'm torn here. I can understand Han's rationalization as a way of dealing with the imminent death of their son, but turning to the dark side isn't like being possessed. At some point, on ( ... )

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gabri_jade May 17 2008, 03:41:18 UTC
I've always liked the Verpines myself, and yeah, climbing over the wounded ones isn't great Jedi behavior. Not even real great civilized being behavior.

I agree about the pet name thing; it's just that I'd imagine calling him "Boba" would have the same effect. I don't know why she'd jump to the "Bob'ika" strategy.

Smashing nanotech into the walls with air to deactivate it: not sure about this, but I was weirdly fond of Jaina and Jacen's ability to move molecules around to heat the air or freeze water in Crystal Star. So... um... I'm not sure I actually had a point there.

*grins* I can't remember anything from Crystal Star, so I can't comment on that. What puzzles me about this section was that Jaina simply how a strong flow of air seemed to turn gas into liquid, but if the gas itself was merely the vehicle for the nanotech and the wind pushed the gas back and out from under the nanotech, so to speak, I guess I can see how the tech would fall to the walls and floor in a liquid-like state. *still pondering*

Also, I bet there are a ( ... )

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persephone_kore May 17 2008, 05:03:52 UTC
I agree about the pet name thing; it's just that I'd imagine calling him "Boba" would have the same effect. I don't know why she'd jump to the "Bob'ika" strategy.

I still cling to the theory that she figured that was the most annoying option.

If it's meant to be a take on Obi-Wan's words, it's another EU screw-up IMO, because I think Luke realized pretty well after Obi-Wan explained it in RotJ that he was using symbolic language to avoid a straight out lie while still protecting him. I don't think Luke ever truly thought of Anakin and Vader as entirely separate people. Denning might have meant it as an illustration, but it's awfully disconcerting to read about Han practically cheering his daughter on in her quest to assassinate her brother.

I don't think Luke separated them, but I think Obi-Wan did -- and I think the name change could well be meant to produce that effect, most of all in the Sith himself. The metaphor could have invaded at some point. Except that still wouldn't explain Han doing it.

Well, the Force technique does ( ... )

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gabri_jade May 17 2008, 05:12:30 UTC
I still cling to the theory that she figured that was the most annoying option.

I think that's the only option that makes any sense.

I don't think Luke separated them, but I think Obi-Wan did -- and I think the name change could well be meant to produce that effect, most of all in the Sith himself. The metaphor could have invaded at some point. Except that still wouldn't explain Han doing it.

I agree with everything you said here.

Yyyyeah, okay, it sounds like it might work just as well to yoink the camera off the wall. Or float a lens cap over there. ;)

Yeah. *sigh*

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kaylle May 16 2008, 01:54:01 UTC
You know, I'm so glad I don't read these anymore. It breaks my heart a little, because they were so much a part of my life for so long. But I'm pretty sure I'd hate them.

(And yes, most of the Bantam books had terrible flaws, but I loved them anyway, and in hindsight, 10+ years later, they don't seem so bad.)

(Also, Leia lecturing Jaina on how to be less frigid? Not only extremely creepy, but a little hypocritical, all things considered. ;))

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gabri_jade May 17 2008, 03:44:54 UTC
You would hate them. And believe me, it breaks my heart to be reading them and see how far they've fallen.

Bantam had some truly awful books, and Del Rey has admittedly had some awesome ones. But Bantam also had all of Zahn's work and the X-Wing series and the Tales anthologies, while Del Rey's just finished up a run of twelve consecutive terrible novels. I'm starting to think fondly of Bantam myself.

And yeah, that's definitely a valid point. Apparently Denning thinks the Ice Princess is really a (slightly geriatric) sex kitten.

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duncatra May 16 2008, 02:09:25 UTC
I'm still not over the Mando-fatigue from last time, so that first chapter felt twice as long. And you're right about all the exposition - I can forgive it in Betrayal or a stand-alone, but this is the last book of a nine-book series: WE KNOW WHO JAINA'S PARENTS ARE AND HOW FAB THEY ARE, THANKS.

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gabri_jade May 17 2008, 03:46:31 UTC
Oh, that first chapter. I thought it would never end. And the exposition just doesn't seem to want to let up. Over and over again: Here are the Solos! And also the Skywalkers! And they're famous and awesome!

Come on. We know who they are, thanks.

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callmelydia May 16 2008, 02:29:10 UTC
Again, so glad I didn't buy this book. And they think fanfic is worth than what the "professionals" do? Please.

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gabri_jade May 17 2008, 03:55:25 UTC
I gave serious thought to not buying it, but my library is very slow about getting SW books, and the morbid fascination was strong. I do believe LotF has cured me, though. *sigh*

You know, that's one of the things that bothers me most about this. While I adore fanfic and its infinite possibilities and often excellent quality, I think that the pros should be writing better quality work than the majority of fans, and I'm very, very irritated to read these books and find so many errors. I'm an amateur; I have neither a degree nor any professional experience in writing or editing. I shouldn't be able to rip apart a published novel like this. The pros should be taking greater pride in their work.

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