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Steven Moffat Denies John Barrowman's Hint That He's Holding Up More Torchwood

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[denorios]

I stopped watching when Ianto died, never bothered with the American 'Miracle Day' series. To be honest, I liked Torchwood when it was daft and fun and ridiculous and gay as all get-out - I didn't want it to go dark and gritty. I liked it when they were all just running around Cardiff fighting aliens, being utter failures at a secret organisations and shagging each other silly, and the whole show was beyond daft. That was my Torchwood.

[frelling_tralk]

I know what you mean, even Children Of Earth never really felt like Torchwood, killing off all of the supporting cast really made it impossible to continue TW in its original format

[davesmusictank]

Poor old Moffat gets blamed for everything. I understand Barrowman's frustration too but that should be aimed at the BBC.

[frelling_tralk]

Yeah it seems odd to throw complaints Moffat's way, it's really down to the BBC and RTD to write more Torchwood

[mfirefly10]

I don't know if there were behind the scenes issues, but I suspect the main reason they never brought it back is because Miracle Day was awful. And I do mean AWFUL. It was one of the worst things I've ever seen and killed any lingering love I had for the show.

Then again, I was of the mind that it was a terrible idea from the start. The show did not need to continue after Children of Earth. They could've given Gwen/Eve Myles her own spinoff with a whole new cast, but they should've never done more Torchwood.

[frelling_tralk]

Definitely, if they wanted to continue the show as Torchwood then they should have at the very least kept Ianto around after COE, instead the message always seemed to be that they were more interested in going out with a bang back then. Trying to bring it back with a new supporting cast in a new setting just didn't appeal to me

[giallarhorn]

Miracle Day had a really interesting premise, but was weird starting up after CoE and ultimately...kind of ended up being just weird.

That said, I know that RTD took a leave because of his partner's illness, and Moffat was showrunner for this entire time and never once mentioned Jack in the stories, so it might've been an easy shot to take?

[frelling_tralk]

Yeah that was my first thought definitely, it sounds like the real reason that there's been no more Torchwood is because RTD doesn't really have time for it right now, but it's just easier to point the finger at Moffat and imply that he has something against the character. I'm pretty sure John Barrowman commented in the past about not understanding why Moffat didn't bring Jack back to Doctor Who for the 50th anniversary celebrations?

[giallarhorn]

Yeah, the 50th...was a very strange affair, tbqh. Plot aside, there's a lot of noticeable absences aside from Jack (cough Eccleston cough) when it would've been an excellent choice to do so?

[frelling_tralk]

I think that Chris Eccleston's absence was just because he wasn't interested, I believe that Steven Moffat did meet up with him to try and convince him to take part