Original Male Earworm - FFA Post #192

Mar 04, 2013 14:13

Meme song, meme songs, whatchu gonna do when they come for you? This message brought to you by 48 hours of Dido. Brought to you by a thread title. I too will go down with this ship.

On the plus side, Dido would be a great name for an Original Male Dog.

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Re: The Two Straight White Guys OTP thing...WHY? anonymous March 10 2013, 04:09:10 UTC
I'm drunk and have lost 90% of my vocabulary so I hope you understand this ( ... )

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Re: The Two Straight White Guys OTP thing...WHY? anonymous March 10 2013, 04:18:57 UTC
DA

Interesting. Two things that stick out at me, though. One, something about this rings true, but for larger fandoms. Is this necessarily true for smaller ones, where shipping is a bit less like something out of The Highlander?

Two, the race issue. I can see some of the US's racial politics rubbing off on people from other countries through fandom, but wouldn't class effect them in the same way?

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Re: The Two Straight White Guys OTP thing...WHY? anonymous March 10 2013, 04:34:35 UTC
da

Class is rarely relevant in American TV land, and there's no particular social issues around people of different income backgrounds dating. There are sometimes interpersonal issues about money particular to that relationship, but if you/your parents make $40,000 and you/your partner's parents make $400,000, that's not a big deal in and of itself, nor is it a "you can tell by looking" situation the way interracial dating is.

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Re: The Two Straight White Guys OTP thing...WHY? anonymous March 10 2013, 04:34:57 UTC
AYRT ( ... )

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Re: The Two Straight White Guys OTP thing...WHY? anonymous March 10 2013, 04:44:45 UTC
My sense with small fandoms has always been that there's just not enough cohesion to fight for scraps. Fan X writes their fic, Fan Y writes their fic, they may or may not comment on each other's work. The main source of comments for Fan X is Fan X's friends from other fandoms and a few people who poked their heads in and decided to review.

Same for older fandoms. People still have pairings they HATE to pieces, of course. But there seems to be less willingness to die on that hill. The one time I saw someone trying to do that - whip people up into a shipping frenzy, get people really into her character interpretations - with my small on LJ, mostly dead fandom, it was pretty bizarre.

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Re: The Two Straight White Guys OTP thing...WHY? anonymous March 10 2013, 04:50:14 UTC
Hm, thanks for the observations. It is possible that smaller fandoms are simply too small to have an effect on greater trends then, or are disproportionately affected by what happens in the larger fandoms in terms of popular tropes and archtypes.

I'm also coming at this from the assumption that the average fan has multiple fandoms. I think the fan that stays dedicated to a single fandom and does not branch out in any meaningful way is an exception to the rule, and has a much weaker effect on fandom in general hitting that critical mass that is required for trends to become established in any meaningful way.

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Re: The Two Straight White Guys OTP thing...WHY? anonymous March 10 2013, 04:38:40 UTC
Hmm, so actually you see fandom as a homogenizing force?

Totally agreed on your last paragraph as the reason behind this phenomenon, with the cookie-cutter metaphor.

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Re: The Two Straight White Guys OTP thing...WHY? anonymous March 10 2013, 04:46:21 UTC
Absolutely.

I think that it is dangerous to refer to "fandom" in general but when we're talking about particular trends then yes, what is in play here is homogenization. There are certain barriers to cross pollination (slash vs het, female vs male centric fandom spaces) but within large categories of fandom homogenization is the rule imo.

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