You've got it wrong.
anonymous
December 15 2004, 16:02:22 UTC
Though what has been done could not have been accomplished without such support as you have, it is you that we should be thanking. You took the first steps, and where they have brought us is quite remarkable. Where they are taking us now, can only be the greatest of places.
Re: You've got it wrong.ea_spouseDecember 15 2004, 19:42:03 UTC
I think that the publicity was more a matter of right-time-right-place; in some respects what I've said has been said before, it just didn't take off because the environment wasn't quite primed for it. But thank you for your kind words. =)
Re: You've got it wrong.
anonymous
December 15 2004, 23:15:46 UTC
Come one, come all! Post your comments and anything else that will help ID you. While you are on-line, better check those "help wanted" ads for telemarketers, because when we are done with you, that's the only job you will be able to get!
Re: You've got it wrong.todpunkDecember 16 2004, 06:03:57 UTC
You know, if a company was stupid enough to fire someone for just being disgruntled, instead of at least figuring out what was causing the disgruntlement and evaluating such, a developer (or anyone else for that matter) shouldn't be working for such a company. Besides, as far as games go, it's pretty easy (and beneficial) to just start your own with a little venture capital and a decent publishing deal. If I was fired today from a job as a game developer, I'd do just that. It's not like EA has any power to stop me with their "quality" games or pompous blacklist.
Get ready for a lifestyle change!
anonymous
December 15 2004, 18:02:05 UTC
I hope you understand that your husband, the bread winner, will soon find that because of your actions, he in no longer employable. Have him practice these lines: “Would you like fries with that?” Also, he might want to look into obtaining the user’s manual for a Fry-King or Fry-O-Lator.
Re: Get ready for a lifestyle change!
anonymous
December 15 2004, 18:21:43 UTC
How do you know that he's the bread winner incidentally? Or do women not get to work in your worldview? And how would anyone know who her spouse is anyway,
Luckily, not everyone out there is a total callous idiot like you. Some people think that treating staff like human beings pays off in the long term (and that it is anyway the morally correct way to behave).
Excellent...ravidrathDecember 15 2004, 19:34:16 UTC
Excellent - expect my application soon.
I hope that you're talking to the IGDA, because a partnership between GameWatch.org and the IGDA could help a lot in allowing the IGDA to create its QoI workplace certification program.
Also will be sending this link around so that the media covers this, too. :)
Re: Excellent...ea_spouseDecember 15 2004, 19:39:58 UTC
Thank you again, Peter. =) Your regular contributions to the discussion and the information you provided throughout it are very much appreciated.
I am talking to the IGDA, and I'm hoping that we can combine efforts to some degree. I did feel it was important for a future watchdog organization to be independent -- the IGDA is a great organization, but its primary focus is "the industry" and sometimes that gets divorced from the notion of the actual people who work there. But a partnership as you mention would be mutually beneficial, I think.
Re: Excellent...ravidrathDecember 15 2004, 19:43:09 UTC
While the IGDA is focused on the industry, I think it sees the current QoI issue you started up as its defining moment.
I kind of see it as an information sharing thing - you collect the data on GameWatch.org and the IGDA uses it help determine which companies are truly good places to work.
Re: Excellent...ea_spouseDecember 15 2004, 19:49:26 UTC
An apt point. I do see Gamewatch as a sort of huge data trove and feedback engine for the industry. The IGDA likely would be best suited to taking the cream of that information and creating something official with it. Like most of the industry it seems a delicate balance, though; in looking out for the industry as a whole, the IGDA has connections to the larger structures that support it (corporations), though I noted recently that the IGDA is splitting from CMP -- it will be interesting to see what effects that has. It doesn't take much to see that corporations are not going to be very happy about the notion of restructuring for worker benefit, though. All we can do is go forward and hope that it (Gamewatch) has some effect.
yeah, they sort of are, but like Wal Mart, it's not the lower level employees who should be blamed.
Liberate EA! For a game company with such power, I'd hate to see it go down like that. They control too many licenses and franchises, it would affect the industry greatly if they fall.
Liberate the employees and bring decency back to our favorite hobby.
You're going to have to do something to make sure that people who post actually do work there, so you can have actual quality reliable information, not just people trying to bring down other companies that they never worked at.
That may pose a sticky problem - some sites require an email from your work address to join, something that certain potential posters would be adverse to. This organization will have to find some way to confirm a persons' employment credentials to keep things relevant and honest, I think.
Re: Discretionea_spouseDecember 16 2004, 20:45:14 UTC
This is true. The balance between authority and discretion is going to be Gamewatch's key challenge.
I would like to discuss this further, but I am going to continue it in the Gamewatch thread, not out of a desire to be didactic but just because I am trying to keep all of the Gamewatch ideas in one place so that none slip through the cracks. Hope you don't mind. =)
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Luckily, not everyone out there is a total callous idiot like you. Some people think that treating staff like human beings pays off in the long term (and that it is anyway the morally correct way to behave).
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I hope that you're talking to the IGDA, because a partnership between GameWatch.org and the IGDA could help a lot in allowing the IGDA to create its QoI workplace certification program.
Also will be sending this link around so that the media covers this, too. :)
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I am talking to the IGDA, and I'm hoping that we can combine efforts to some degree. I did feel it was important for a future watchdog organization to be independent -- the IGDA is a great organization, but its primary focus is "the industry" and sometimes that gets divorced from the notion of the actual people who work there. But a partnership as you mention would be mutually beneficial, I think.
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I kind of see it as an information sharing thing - you collect the data on GameWatch.org and the IGDA uses it help determine which companies are truly good places to work.
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Liberate EA! For a game company with such power, I'd hate to see it go down like that. They control too many licenses and franchises, it would affect the industry greatly if they fall.
Liberate the employees and bring decency back to our favorite hobby.
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I would like to discuss this further, but I am going to continue it in the Gamewatch thread, not out of a desire to be didactic but just because I am trying to keep all of the Gamewatch ideas in one place so that none slip through the cracks. Hope you don't mind. =)
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