We have been here before

Nov 09, 2016 10:20

I am nohow happy about the outcome of the national election, nor much cheered by the results in Congress. The four MA ballot questions all went the way I voted. But gather 'round children and let old DrWex tell you a story of how we've been here before ( Read more... )

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chienne_folle November 9 2016, 21:22:13 UTC
Thanks for the reminder that we did survive the Reagan years, even if a lot of terrible things happened during those years.

What I find myself thinking this morning is that the Jews who left Germany upon Hitler's rise to power looked like geniuses when he started sending the people who stayed to death camps. And I find myself wondering how you tell when a leader is so bad that it's "leave the country" time and when it's "we survived Reagan, and we'll survive this" time. How do you tell?

Should I encourage Black or Muslim friends to leave the country? If they can't afford to go, should I buy them plane tickets? How do we tell when something is a big enough emergency that emergency actions are necessary?

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drwex November 9 2016, 21:28:11 UTC
That's a good and scary question. I've been saying since the start of primary season that I am afraid we are living in Wiemar America. Any Jews who think that the haters are going to stop with Muslims and gays are advised to reread Pastor Neimoller's words.

There are other options. See here for one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqMhx6vh0VY

I think the breakpoint for me will be when it moves past words and to open violence.

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chienne_folle November 9 2016, 21:46:43 UTC
Pastor Neimoller's famous quote has always resonated very strongly for me, but then, I guess it's the nature of those of us on the left to understand that intuitively.

Thanks for that link! Watching that video finally allowed me to cry. I've been feeling on the verge of tears since it happened, but I've been too stunned to actually let go enough to cry.

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drwex November 9 2016, 22:01:28 UTC
Jay Smooth is pretty awesome.

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mizarchivist November 9 2016, 21:44:30 UTC
And we survived GW somehow. That seemed somewhat impossible, too.

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sariel_t November 9 2016, 21:54:21 UTC
*pebble*

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