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darkrosetiger

The view from inside

Dec 07, 2006 15:28

In this post, researchgrrrl wrote about her experiences as a rape survivor, and how it informs her belief that writing rapefic about real people is wrong. I admire the courage it must have taken for her to write that post, and to make it public, and I am in no way denying that she is entitled to express her opinion. However, I have to disagree with her comment ( Read more... )

rpf, writing, fandom, meta

Comments 20

almostnever December 7 2006, 23:47:21 UTC

*applause*

researchgrrrl December 8 2006, 00:00:58 UTC

There's three r's in my LJ handle. This other will take you to a TomKat timeline. I'm not sure anyone deserves to deal with that. :)

darkrosetiger December 8 2006, 00:52:23 UTC

Corrected--sorry about that.

researchgrrrl December 8 2006, 00:55:43 UTC

Oh, no worries. It happens all the time. The "...the hell?" e-mail I get from friends trying to find my LJ are priceless.

bibliotech December 8 2006, 00:02:14 UTC

...you know, I know it's not a Good Thing to have to deal with rape and the aftermath and whatnot, but I'm kinda tired of people who have dealt with this (admittedly) awful thing, going on to tell people that writing about it or wanting to explore that as a power dynamic or whatever they want to do that's safe, sane and consensual is now wrong. And then everyone just looks at their hands and goes "...oh, no," because who wants to argue with someone that's been raped in favour of rapefic ( ... )

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almostnever December 8 2006, 01:08:05 UTC

I think what's she's getting at is that a victim of rape can tell you not to write rapefic, but as much as you respect what they've been through, it doesn't necessarily make them any more convincing on the ethical question than a victim of rape telling you that you can write whatever you want.

green_grrl December 8 2006, 00:37:03 UTC

To me, there are two parts to the question -- using real people characters and eroticizing rape. The RPF part is, to me, a non-issue. The characters in RPF are characters, whether they're in an obvious AU or not. The vast majority of actors/singers/athletes portrayed in RPF never read it. For those few that do, as long as a fic is labeled with something along the lines of "This is my imagination" and "Warning: non-con/rape," then the RP in question gets to use his/her back button the same as anyone else ( ... )

lilacsigil December 8 2006, 00:39:46 UTC

I don't think you and reseachgrrrl are talking about exactly the same thing, except in the paragraph about nifty.org - you're talking about your own thoughts and fantasies about real people, and she's talking about writing these as erotica or romance in a public forum ( ... )

darkrosetiger December 8 2006, 00:51:27 UTC

I don't think you and reseachgrrrl are talking about exactly the same thing, except in the paragraph about nifty.org - you're talking about your own thoughts and fantasies about real people, and she's talking about writing these as erotica or romance in a public forum.

I'm more likely to do semi-con, and the flat out no consent I've written is in the context of AU's or where slavery is legal (Valimar, Sable Knot, some of the Blood Histories stuff). reseachgrrrl's comment that I quoted didn't distinguish between imagining something and actually writing it and then posting it, though, which is why I addressed it that way.