Knoll's flashback shows that the change was quite sudden, and happened right when . . . I think it was right when the stone was separated, which was also when Vigarde was rezzed, right? Lyon seems to understand that what he's doing is taboo, but not explicitly dangerous.
Personally. . . I think given when it happens, Lyon being fully aware of it would even be somewhat out of character. It just seems unlike the kind and conscious-of-others person he's supposed to be to willingly contract when there are people around him who could be put into danger.
Also I think there's something in Ephraim's route about the DK overpowering him/taking him by surprise, at least at first.
Yeah, when Vigarde was revived the stone broke. And Lyon didn't really seem to understand the danger of the DK in the flashbacks with Ephraim and Eirika (which is understandable; how could he really understand how powerful the DK is? It's too abstract to understand it without having experienced it, I believe)
I don't feel that Lyon was really rational at that time (or particularly sane). I do believe that a feeling of "I do not want to do this now, someone please help me in whatever way, I don't care" governed Lyon and might have pushed this kind side of Lyon to the side.
Yeah, but if it comes from the DK/Lyon, how do you know it's true? Might it not only be a ploy (well, depending from who it comes. We would have to check that first)
I think given that the same thing was implied in Eirika's route, that the possession came on suddenly and without warning, that at least that detail can probably be taken for truth, even though Ephraim-route-Lyon is hardly the most trustworthy source.
As for rationality. . . I really do think that just about everything adds up to even DK-influenced Lyon trying extremely hard to avoid directly hurting people. Just about until the very end when he becomes a boss (both times arguably as a direct effort to get killed), the only way he ever directly injures anyone is when the DK has him completely possessed, and he kills Morva - even though he has numerous opportunities to eliminate the twins, all at points when the DK would be quite enthusiastic about doing so. So I don't think there's a way that a Faustian element could tie in with what you see in-game.
By whom/what was it implied? I'd like to read it up maybe (to make my brain shut up XD)
Does he really has so many opportunities to kill the twins? The first time he openly fights with them is on their way to Rausten (Narube River, I believe) and it ends with him deciding that he/Lyon is not ready for it yet. Or do you mean teleporting in and then just sneakily kill them? (Which he should've done, really.)
Hmhm, it's probably as much the question about how much power the DK has over Lyon as my original question. Looking at it, it probably has very much to do with it. Nnnnnnnnnn, I do kinda want to explore different setups <3
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Knoll's flashback shows that the change was quite sudden, and happened right when . . . I think it was right when the stone was separated, which was also when Vigarde was rezzed, right? Lyon seems to understand that what he's doing is taboo, but not explicitly dangerous.
Personally. . . I think given when it happens, Lyon being fully aware of it would even be somewhat out of character. It just seems unlike the kind and conscious-of-others person he's supposed to be to willingly contract when there are people around him who could be put into danger.
Also I think there's something in Ephraim's route about the DK overpowering him/taking him by surprise, at least at first.
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I don't feel that Lyon was really rational at that time (or particularly sane). I do believe that a feeling of "I do not want to do this now, someone please help me in whatever way, I don't care" governed Lyon and might have pushed this kind side of Lyon to the side.
Yeah, but if it comes from the DK/Lyon, how do you know it's true? Might it not only be a ploy (well, depending from who it comes. We would have to check that first)
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As for rationality. . . I really do think that just about everything adds up to even DK-influenced Lyon trying extremely hard to avoid directly hurting people. Just about until the very end when he becomes a boss (both times arguably as a direct effort to get killed), the only way he ever directly injures anyone is when the DK has him completely possessed, and he kills Morva - even though he has numerous opportunities to eliminate the twins, all at points when the DK would be quite enthusiastic about doing so. So I don't think there's a way that a Faustian element could tie in with what you see in-game.
That's just me, though.
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Does he really has so many opportunities to kill the twins? The first time he openly fights with them is on their way to Rausten (Narube River, I believe) and it ends with him deciding that he/Lyon is not ready for it yet. Or do you mean teleporting in and then just sneakily kill them? (Which he should've done, really.)
Hmhm, it's probably as much the question about how much power the DK has over Lyon as my original question. Looking at it, it probably has very much to do with it. Nnnnnnnnnn, I do kinda want to explore different setups <3
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