Well, I haven't had one of these in a long while

Sep 25, 2008 16:26

Aaaaand the ff.net plagiarizer (who was claiming that her cousin * wrote "Phantom of the Opera in Fifteen Minutes" and gave her "permission" to cannibalize it) has deleted the post. Or ff.net did. Someone. Normally I just drop people a line once in a blue moon and go, "Hey, could you take this down, it's mine," and they comply--I try to take a " ( Read more... )

plagiarism, wtf, phantom of the opera, m15m

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tytaniaherself September 26 2008, 21:34:51 UTC
Well, as I just pointed out over on ffn, if her cousins accepted money for rights they didn't own, that would constitute fraud...

Except, I think that the whole thing is bull to be honest. I think she transcribed Phantom in 15 Minutes from Youtube (note- your authorship isn't credited on the video or the description and probably should be) and was genuinely shocked when it turned out that people recognized the jokes and knew who the real author was. Then she came up with the story about her "cousins" which immediately fell apart and left her no choice but to delete and run. The apology is there because she's afraid that she'll get no love from now on at ffn but she really isn't sorry.

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cleolinda September 26 2008, 21:40:52 UTC
Wait, money what? My eyes keep glazing over every time I try to read any of this.

And yeah, the YouTube thing needs to credit me, but I don't know how to make them do it.

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tytaniaherself September 26 2008, 21:45:10 UTC
According to her looooong screed about her wrongs, which includes the obligatory Hurricane Ike excuse as well, she claims that she paid her cousins $46 and change for the "rights" to their script for the play they claimed to have posted on Youtube.

It makes no sense at all and I think it's all a lie. The trouble is that the lie gets her into worse trouble than the truth.

ETA: I think the options on youtube are to contact the person who posted the video through reviews or to use the "flag" option to report the video to youtube. The one seems unprofessional and the other is extreme, but that's likely the ex-would-be-lawyer in me talking.

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cleolinda September 26 2008, 21:55:40 UTC
See, and the thing is, I did give a few specific people--could be these people, I don't know--permission to stage whatever. Mostly if you ask me, I say yes except that--and I always stipulate this--you can't make a profit from it (a school charity talent show, whatever, that's fine), and you have to explicitly credit me in some way--a sign, a printed program, a verbal announcement before the skit, whatever. And I go through this with people, so it's not like I'm leaving this ambiguous to the ones I talk to.

The problem is, the thing on YouTube that doesn't credit me (and I don't know why) has gotten seen by a lot of people, who then don't realize that I wrote it. Like this girl. Which is PRECISELY why credit is so important. I wish people would understand that.

Maybe I need to get my internet lawyer on this...

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celticangel76 September 26 2008, 22:35:17 UTC
If you have a YouTube account you can send a message to the people who posted the vid. Tell them to credit you. If they don't then you can report them to YouTube for copyright infringement.

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tytaniaherself September 26 2008, 23:36:29 UTC
I've never had a problem with people who talked to me directly. The trouble comes from things I posted online that people decided to copy and paste elsewhere. I regularly get forwarded my own work in e-mail by people who have no idea that it's mine. It's turned up on my friends list. I will have to police every stupid opera community (I sing opera and write about it from time to time) on the internet for all time so I can keep saying "Yes, I wrote it. Credit me. That means you edit your post and add my name. Just because I was here to reply does not mean I am now the credited author of my own work. kthnxbye ( ... )

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cleolinda September 26 2008, 23:57:02 UTC
Sigh...

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cleolinda September 27 2008, 17:02:49 UTC
I usually do put up a CC, yeah. I haven't done it the last couple of times, but it would have been on POTO.

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crescent_gaia September 26 2008, 21:48:31 UTC
From what I know with my limited YouTube knowledge (and not to hijack the thread here) but YouTube usually will take something down if they don't credit you. I would PM the people who put up the video first asking for credit. If they don't, you have the PM and the rights to PotO in 15 minutes to ask YouTube to take down the vid.

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Give me a break! mustang_bex1126 September 26 2008, 22:42:54 UTC
Because only mean squirrel type persons would ever hold such a poor, dire child responsible for willful actions! Don't you know? I mean really, of course she didn't mean to do anything wrong, she was the helpless victim here, taken advantage of by cruel older, wiser family members, and then dealt a cruel hand by fate!

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Re: Give me a break! tytaniaherself September 26 2008, 23:41:30 UTC
Seriously, I much prefer the evil twin excuse. It's so much more simple and to the point. Allow me to demonstrate...

OMG you guys, my evil twin, Skippy, escaped from the attic where we keep her chained up most of the time and she totally hacked my account and did terrible things! Terrible! She's mad I tell you! Luckily, we caught her eating raw squirrels under the porch and she's back in chains in the attic where I'm sure she won't be causing any more trouble. Also, since she's my evil twin, we look alike and sound alike and have the same IP address so even if it looks like I did something wrong, it was totally her. Totally. Her. And anyone who says different is an inconsiderate meanie liar who doesn't understand my woe! Woe, I tell you, woe!

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Re: Give me a break! gwynnywonk September 27 2008, 00:53:42 UTC
Sadly, I have a younger sister that often sneaks onto my computer when I get up and leave it for a few minutes, and she's posted odd things on my facebook and lj before. Then when I tell people it was her they're all "..." And I'm, "NO SERIOUSLY YOU GUYS I'M NOT KIDDING I WOULD NEVER USE A DOUBLE HYPHEN"

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macbethchild September 27 2008, 01:20:55 UTC
That's what I'm thinking.

It could make an awesome LOLcat, though. Pathos: ur doin it rong.

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daemonnoire September 29 2008, 14:56:51 UTC
Ask and ye shall receive:


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