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etoile444 April 24 2011, 02:48:30 UTC
It's an odd thing you ask in the title of your post. There are battery cables in Bobby's living room when Cas comes in and collapses! Why?

I also think Dean didn't want to gank the phoenix just on the merit that he was a monster. Dean's sooo past that now. No, he needed the ashes, so phoenix guy (and his name that is hard for me to spell as apocalypse) had to go! Sam would have agreeed. He's well past his whiny stage (that'd be season one and a bit of season two).

I really enjoyed it all!

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x-men blacklid April 24 2011, 14:21:14 UTC
Hopefully, someone will ask Jim or Misha or Guy at a convention to elaborate. From what I understand, it was a gag that they cut from the scene. Perhaps Bobby tried to give Cas a little jump when he wouldn't wake up?

*hopes for the gag reel*

As for the phoenix and their reasons for ganking: I'm totally in agreement as to why they did it, but my point was about the moral ambiguity of it. As long as it's a monster, there are still no qualms from either of them about killing something relatively innocent: something that they learned when meeting Lenore that they have since un-learned. Maybe soon they will realize that some monsters would rather be human and be treated as such. What is a monster, anyway?

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Re: x-men etoile444 April 24 2011, 18:48:56 UTC
What is a monster? The big question show liked to ask in S2 to S4...then sort of back peddled on so that anything not human (including angels) was a monster. Anyways, that guy that attacked Elias' wife and then shot them both was easily the monster of the situation. Though Dean didn't gank him he did put him in that cell as bait knowing potentially he might get killed in the process.

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Re: x-men percysowner April 25 2011, 01:20:38 UTC
Actually, I really wish Dean's answer would have been that he had to kill the phoenix because it had already happened and they had to have his ashes. As far as Sam and Dean knew at that point, history couldn't be changed and if it was, Castiel would have corrected it to begin with. In fact, since the original order of the show was supposed to be Frontierland then My Heart Will Go On, Sam and Dean would have believed that history couldn't be changed at all. I would have felt much better if Dean had killed the phoenix, but been regretful about it because, just like he couldn't save John and Mary, he also couldn't save the phoenix and change history either.

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feliciakw April 24 2011, 03:34:19 UTC
About ST4 . . . What I like best about that movie is that you don't have to be familiar with Star Trek at all to enjoy it. It wasn't exactly my introduction to Trek (I saw the first movie as a child and was bored out of my mind), but as a re-introduction, it was enjoyable, in that I knew pretty much nothing about Trek at the time, and I still enjoyed it. It came out when I was in high school, and a friend (who was a Trekkie) and I went to see it. I think at one point I asked about Spock, and she was like, "Shhhh . . . I'll tell you later."

It's a good one. I'd say check it out.

And yes, we liked this ep. *nods*

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blacklid April 24 2011, 14:28:41 UTC
Hubby has seen them all, although I wouldn't call him a Trekkie. I'm sure we have it somewhere. And I have several old and foreign movies that he's never shown any interest in seeing. We each have our movie fetishes!

I did see the new Trek movie when it came out and enjoyed that, so maybe I will set up a marathon of the old ones sometime.

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a_phoenixdragon April 25 2011, 06:18:40 UTC
I loves you!! And I loves this review and I agree...this monster wasn't a monster in a sense. But he was willin to burn anyone in his way in the end - he had nothing to lose.

You too? This. Is why I bring towels, lol!

*hugs*

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blacklid April 25 2011, 19:04:22 UTC
It's downright creepy, Mandy. I hope you'll take the time to meet Blake soon because he'll seem REALLY FAMILIAR. :D

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a_phoenixdragon April 26 2011, 00:31:33 UTC
I will, sweetie - just...gotta find that time, lol!

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