Any episode that feels old school is going to get the thumbs up from me
Absoulutely. I think I am even more biased by the fact that TNT is currently showing episodes from season 4 (which as you said, Carver seems to be re-telling)and I can't help comparing the two seasons.
After last week's episode, monicawoe made a comment about how it "was nice to see fake-Gabriel because he at least reminded me of a time when angels weren't cardboard Matrix-agents."
I think things were much more well-rounded in season 4 and even 5 than what we are getting now.
I think they are going to have to dig really deep if they want us to believe he's any "darker" than he's been before.
I think if he start to kill innocent people we might get to see how dark he's gettingI think this will be harder for them to pull off than even they realize. Because it seems that the only people left who actually care about humans are the fans. More than one person has pointed out that Sam and Dean no longer seem to care about the possessed person when dealing with humans
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I adore Jody and am always happy to have spotlight episode on interesting characters like her. The problem lies in the fact that it's the end of the season and it's quite obvious that all of the middling plot points are going to be shoved roughly into the last few episodes of the season (which are already loaded with the bullshit angel drama
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The problem lies in the fact that it's the end of the season and it's quite obvious that all of the middling plot points are going to be shoved roughly into the last few episodes of the season (which are already loaded with the bullshit angel drama).
Absolutely. If their total lack of conversations and half muttered words are going to continue then they're never going to sort this out - I'm still not they plans to solve their conflict by the end of the season anyway - or their idea of solving it will be a few words and that's it. Argh.. I don't know. I'm just getting more and more worried for those last few episodes.
Purgatory Dean was a thousand times darker and more interesting than this Dean they have going.
And what made it even more interesting is that it was all him. Same with post hell Dean. It's weird that they are simply re-hashing a dark!Dean we've already had - it's disappointing they couldn't have put a different spin on it - unless there's a direction they plan to take that we are not expecting.
It's sad to think that she's all they really have now. :( It'd be awesome to have her in the finale - but also scary because it could mean certain death - being the finale and all...
Okay, maybe you can help me. I haven't watched since the midseason hiatus (we're talking December!) because I keep thinking that if I can wait it out, then any brother rift won't be upsetting because I will know that there is an end...light at the end of the angelic tunnel, etc...etc....
Because your loves/hates dovetail so neatly with my own, I would love to know what you think. Is this a good "diving in" place? Or given the fact that we are so close to the end of the season, would it be better to wait until summer?
(Yesterday, I had the smallest awakening of the desire to write Sam&Dean again, and I'm trying to figure out if I should just write early season or try to catch up.)
Your write-ups are the best!!! (even if I didn't actually watch the ep) Thank you for still being here!!!
My gut feeling is no, this is not a good place to be diving in. I mean, this is a great episode and could be watched as a stand alone. There's only one little bit of heartbreaking dialogue between the boys - but it's very quick and Sam doesn't rise to the challenge of it. Dean is getting increasingly dark but the brothers are still on the job. But the highlight is Jody - and Jody and Alex. Very satisfying in terms of a well written female focused episode.
But I think the last 3 eps are going to be totally heartbreaking (next ep is pilot for the spin off so little S&D I'm thinking...). The fact that they haven't even addressed this so-called rift in the last 4 episodes means they will be cramming it in in the final three. And it won't be pretty I don't think. :( Show feels so dark atm. There's less talking between them (in terms of any issues) than there's ever been. *weeps*
But hi! Glad to see you still around and GREAT to hear you have a wee desire to write Sam&Dean. xx
Oh, yes, same here!! I love the old school feel so much.
I also loved how we got some more character growth for Jody. I really like her character and I was glad that they addressed what she'd been through.
I know what you mean, I was also afraid she'd be killed. The only one I've seen saying bad things about Sam were a couple Dean/Destiel fans bashing him for what he said to Dean at the end - but those fans are gonna bitch no matter what. Sam could sneeze and they'd bitch about it, lol
It's become more obvious how difficult it is to show Dean being dark because nothing that we are seeing at the moment is much different than what we've seen before. It harkens back the way he was in Season 2 after John died.Very good point. I felt like I was almost having flashbacks to Bloodlust for a little while there, especially that scene where Dean killed the vamp to save Gordon, appeared to be reveling in it while Sam stared at him unnerved. I'm wondering if they made it lame purposely to really hit us with it hard a bit later on. Not sure,
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The only one I've seen saying bad things about Sam were a couple Dean/Destiel fans bashing him for what he said to Dean at the end - but those fans are gonna bitch no matter what. Sam could sneeze and they'd bitch about it, lol
Yeah. I've long ago accept that. I think after that last horrid vilification of Sam by fandom I've become a tad sensitive to what will happen to make them to day again.
I'm wondering if they made it lame purposely to really hit us with it hard a bit later on. Not sure, but something I was just pondering.
Hee...I'm sure we are going to be hit with it pretty hard later on. This isn't going anywhere good I don't think.
I'd hate for it to be some sort of foreshadowing that Dean would end up killing Sam.
Yeah, it would be pretty horrid. I doubt we'd have another Sam death at the end of the episode. Maybe a Dean death, but that would be horrible also. If Sam kills Dean for some reason we'd NEVER hear the end of it. I don't even want to contemplate it...lalalalala...
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Absoulutely. I think I am even more biased by the fact that TNT is currently showing episodes from season 4 (which as you said, Carver seems to be re-telling)and I can't help comparing the two seasons.
After last week's episode, monicawoe made a comment about how it "was nice to see fake-Gabriel because he at least reminded me of a time when angels weren't cardboard Matrix-agents."
I think things were much more well-rounded in season 4 and even 5 than what we are getting now.
I think they are going to have to dig really deep if they want us to believe he's any "darker" than he's been before.
I think if he start to kill innocent people we might get to see how dark he's gettingI think this will be harder for them to pull off than even they realize. Because it seems that the only people left who actually care about humans are the fans. More than one person has pointed out that Sam and Dean no longer seem to care about the possessed person when dealing with humans ( ... )
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Absolutely. If their total lack of conversations and half muttered words are going to continue then they're never going to sort this out - I'm still not they plans to solve their conflict by the end of the season anyway - or their idea of solving it will be a few words and that's it. Argh.. I don't know. I'm just getting more and more worried for those last few episodes.
Purgatory Dean was a thousand times darker and more interesting than this Dean they have going.
And what made it even more interesting is that it was all him. Same with post hell Dean. It's weird that they are simply re-hashing a dark!Dean we've already had - it's disappointing they couldn't have put a different spin on it - unless there's a direction they plan to take that we are not expecting.
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Because your loves/hates dovetail so neatly with my own, I would love to know what you think. Is this a good "diving in" place? Or given the fact that we are so close to the end of the season, would it be better to wait until summer?
(Yesterday, I had the smallest awakening of the desire to write Sam&Dean again, and I'm trying to figure out if I should just write early season or try to catch up.)
Your write-ups are the best!!! (even if I didn't actually watch the ep) Thank you for still being here!!!
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My gut feeling is no, this is not a good place to be diving in. I mean, this is a great episode and could be watched as a stand alone. There's only one little bit of heartbreaking dialogue between the boys - but it's very quick and Sam doesn't rise to the challenge of it. Dean is getting increasingly dark but the brothers are still on the job. But the highlight is Jody - and Jody and Alex. Very satisfying in terms of a well written female focused episode.
But I think the last 3 eps are going to be totally heartbreaking (next ep is pilot for the spin off so little S&D I'm thinking...). The fact that they haven't even addressed this so-called rift in the last 4 episodes means they will be cramming it in in the final three. And it won't be pretty I don't think. :( Show feels so dark atm. There's less talking between them (in terms of any issues) than there's ever been. *weeps*
But hi! Glad to see you still around and GREAT to hear you have a wee desire to write Sam&Dean. xx
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I also loved how we got some more character growth for Jody. I really like her character and I was glad that they addressed what she'd been through.
I know what you mean, I was also afraid she'd be killed. The only one I've seen saying bad things about Sam were a couple Dean/Destiel fans bashing him for what he said to Dean at the end - but those fans are gonna bitch no matter what. Sam could sneeze and they'd bitch about it, lol
It's become more obvious how difficult it is to show Dean being dark because nothing that we are seeing at the moment is much different than what we've seen before. It harkens back the way he was in Season 2 after John died.Very good point. I felt like I was almost having flashbacks to Bloodlust for a little while there, especially that scene where Dean killed the vamp to save Gordon, appeared to be reveling in it while Sam stared at him unnerved. I'm wondering if they made it lame purposely to really hit us with it hard a bit later on. Not sure, ( ... )
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Yeah. I've long ago accept that. I think after that last horrid vilification of Sam by fandom I've become a tad sensitive to what will happen to make them to day again.
I'm wondering if they made it lame purposely to really hit us with it hard a bit later on. Not sure, but something I was just pondering.
Hee...I'm sure we are going to be hit with it pretty hard later on. This isn't going anywhere good I don't think.
I'd hate for it to be some sort of foreshadowing that Dean would end up killing Sam.
Yeah, it would be pretty horrid. I doubt we'd have another Sam death at the end of the episode. Maybe a Dean death, but that would be horrible also. If Sam kills Dean for some reason we'd NEVER hear the end of it. I don't even want to contemplate it...lalalalala...
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