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bart_calendar September 4 2013, 11:17:20 UTC
Marvel doesn't always suck with female characters.

In Howard The Duck in the 70s Beverly got to do the majority of the fighting and had most of the best lines. (Even more so when it moved from comic book to graphic novel format.)

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lil_shepherd September 4 2013, 12:04:36 UTC
Well, Stan Lee as writer was a different beastie from Stan Lee as editor and writers such as Roy Thomas, Gerry Conway and Jim Steranko were already sneaking stronger women into the storylines in the late 60s. (According to Thomas, Lee had stopped editing him except for an occasional "couple of pages to keep me honest" quite early in the process. When Thomas became editor in chief, a great many of the most important female characters, powered or not, were introduced by writers such as Wein and Claremont.

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Apex Predator danieldwilliam September 4 2013, 12:04:21 UTC
I am Human. Hear me shuffle up behind you.

On the savanah no one can hear you scream.

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Re: Apex Predator del_c September 4 2013, 12:20:42 UTC
In the late Hal Clement's novel Still River, most intelligent species are from cold planets around red stars. The human in the team at one point gets into serious trouble because her colleagues thought humans could take any extreme of heat and radiation.

There was a non-fiction article in Analog years ago about human cursoriality, but I can't remember if there wer any short stories about it.

I think Brin may have done a scene in the Uplift universe. Vague memory of aliens stranding a human fatally in the bush, only for him to walk back. I think he has Ray Mears-level survival skills, though. I also vaguely remember that the bush-skills thing in the Uplift future is a Human Pride craze, in response to our knowledge that this is our niche. I could be imagining all this.

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lil_shepherd September 4 2013, 12:13:58 UTC
Even though my comics reading has been intermittent, particularly from the late 70s to the late 80s, even I knew that things had become very dark in some areas of comic-book-land long before Watchmen.

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nancylebov September 4 2013, 12:56:25 UTC
Humans as uber-scavengers.

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andrewducker September 4 2013, 17:20:14 UTC
Oh, that is _fascinating_!

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threegoldfish September 4 2013, 23:03:36 UTC
That was a *very* interesting read. Thank you!

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ashfae September 5 2013, 17:24:37 UTC
That Sue Storm article was deeply satisfying, thanks!

Man I always hated the Fantastic Four.

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andrewducker September 5 2013, 20:05:37 UTC
The Mark Waid run is very good. I can lend it to you, if you like.

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