ETA: Sorry, I probably shouldn't insinuate mental illness in a discussion like this. What I mean is that I have no idea what she's talking about or what she thinks is happening. Can someone explain?
She said something about how, previously on BoingBoing, someone had impersonated Will Shetterly to say annoying things, and now it's happening again (there's a troll journal, "willlshetterly" with three Ls, going around impersonating him saying dumb things, apparently.)
So, you know, *my* assumption is that yes, since this is the internet, WS/the Neilsens have probably made some irrational enemy who likes messing with them, and this troll or trolls is taking the opportunity of this debacle in order to fuss around and make things worse.
But *TNH's* assumption is that this whole debacle is somehow about secret sockpuppet trolls targeting them, using racism disingenuously to make them look bad or whatever.
I mean, this just doesn't make *any sense*, because the discussion was large and widespread and energetic for *days* before PNH even got involved, and he only even got involved by commenting on mac_stone's post, so unless *her post* was some sort of tiger trap... I don't even know. It really does seems kind of irrational.
(Does someone really need to pretend to be Will Shetterly saying dumb things? I mean, doesn't Will Shetterly himself take care of doing that all on his own?)
Thanks for parsing that mess for me; I couldn't make heads or tails of it.
And I nearly burst a vein in my head reading the original post, so I didn't want to spend too long dwelling on this latest one.
The comments made by the troll were only slightly crazier than the shit Shetterly says, but they were actually more out there, once I could figure out what happened. The troll got noticed for saying something about not seeing race making Shetterly the best anti-racist or something insane like that.
In addition to 3l Shetterly, there were also a couple of gross racist trolls, "dumb niggers" etc, etc, etc. I ... sort of feel as if she's implying that someone who was trashing Emma Bull was perhaps behind ... I know one of them was darkerblogistan, I don't remember the username of the other one.
Right, yeah, there was that too-- she implied that the same people were behind "both sides", but I didn't see the icky racist trolls, so I didn't see what she meant by that.
I... but the thing is, we know who darkerblogistan is, he's that lawyer from L.A., so... he can't be anyone's sockpuppet. Although I wouldn't put it past him to *have* sockpuppets.
darkerblogistan a/k/a Luke Jackson frequently uses racist and misogynist language in his own posts, and he owns that as his language. If he is a troll, he is trolling from his own perspective of being "victimized" by "the PC heifer hordes," and has been doing it for a while--TNH seems to have failed Poe's Law on this one.
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So, you know, *my* assumption is that yes, since this is the internet, WS/the Neilsens have probably made some irrational enemy who likes messing with them, and this troll or trolls is taking the opportunity of this debacle in order to fuss around and make things worse.
But *TNH's* assumption is that this whole debacle is somehow about secret sockpuppet trolls targeting them, using racism disingenuously to make them look bad or whatever.
I mean, this just doesn't make *any sense*, because the discussion was large and widespread and energetic for *days* before PNH even got involved, and he only even got involved by commenting on mac_stone's post, so unless *her post* was some sort of tiger trap... I don't even know. It really does seems kind of irrational.
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Thanks for parsing that mess for me; I couldn't make heads or tails of it.
And I nearly burst a vein in my head reading the original post, so I didn't want to spend too long dwelling on this latest one.
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Right, yeah, there was that too-- she implied that the same people were behind "both sides", but I didn't see the icky racist trolls, so I didn't see what she meant by that.
I... but the thing is, we know who darkerblogistan is, he's that lawyer from L.A., so... he can't be anyone's sockpuppet. Although I wouldn't put it past him to *have* sockpuppets.
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How this translates into "anyone who argues with tnh must be part of a Vast Sockpuppet Conspiracy", I have no clue.
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So, you know, you have to consider what your allies say about the quality of your argument.
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