That boy....

Aug 08, 2005 16:49

I will never ever EVER ask my bro to find out if someone is gay or not for me. Ok...so I asked him to find out if a certain person was during the senior year and he's like...no she's not. Today....I found out...HE LIED!! Agh! Ok. I should have asked myself but guess who was too chickenshit. Yup...me. So...But still!!! And now...I'm leaving ( Read more... )

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jrtom August 9 2005, 10:57:59 UTC
What red_frog said. :)

Plus...

(1) IMO, the bro in question likes to feel as though he knows things, even when his data are either suspect or nonexistent, and he especially likes other people to think that he knows things. He's not right as often as he thinks he is. (And he'd better get over that if he ever wants to do intelligence work.) Believe me, I recognize the symptoms--from the inside. :)

(2) It's a question to which a lot of people are reluctant to give out straight (heh) or truthful answers. Could even be that said bro was actually right (whether accidentally or because he really did have good information) and your current information is wrong. Or, heck, maybe the answer's even changed (or is not well-defined--maybe _she_ hasn't sorted it out yet).

(3) Even for people that make no secret of their sexual orientation, people get confused on this all the time.

So the other bottom line is if you really want to know, you'll probably need to get to know them (and vice versa) yourself. (This may also apply to the "is she really single?" question.)

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un_paid_intern August 13 2005, 01:45:52 UTC
I know from experience on both ends (having been asked if I'm gay and having asked a few people if they were...long and complicated) that it's always better to get to know the person first...before I even considered telling a few friends that I'm bi I had to get to know them a bit first...

I also know from experience that the bro in question is generally clueless...he literally couldn't get the hint when I first met him that we just aren't made for each other...ever since him, my friends have been skeptical about my taste in guys...

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jrtom August 13 2005, 12:59:12 UTC
I also know from experience that the bro in question is generally clueless...

I wouldn't say that he's _generally_ clueless. Like many--perhaps most--people, he's less clueful in matters that touch him and his emotions and desires directly. Part of this, also, is the arrogance of intelligence (i.e., the failure to appreciate that being smart doesn't mean that you are either informed or wise), and part of it is his (very common) desire to be seen as knowledgeable--or at least 'in the loop'.

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un_paid_intern August 13 2005, 14:11:02 UTC
...and I know as his supposedly psychotic ex that he can be clueless...almost every time we talked he tried to psycho-analyze me...and he was always wrong...AN INTRO TO PSYCHOLOGY DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE AN EXPERT ON THE HUMAN PSYCHE (let alone an expert on my psyche...it took several sessions before my psychologist [a trained professional] could figure out what to make of me)...that's the only big problem I have with him...

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jrtom August 13 2005, 18:53:27 UTC
I'm not saying that he's never clueless. Just that he's not _always_ (or even generally) clueless. (For what it's worth, I've known him for, oh, about 18 years or so--I'm his uncle. :> )

Anyway, if you'd like to discuss this further, please feel free to email me (my email address can be found on my LJ userinfo page); I feel as though I've already spammed zuchini_head2's LJ enough already on this subject.

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un_paid_intern August 14 2005, 00:26:30 UTC
Meh...I don't think she minds too much ^_^...

Yeah, this doesn't seem to be going anywhere...it might be better to drop the issue altogether...

Love ya Kay XD

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