FAO Scy11a, Crazyscot

Jan 06, 2008 21:12

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Risks Digest 24.93
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:24:51 -0600
From: Peter G Neumann Subject: Nitrogen Used To Fill Aircraft Oxygen Systems ( Read more... )

aaaaarrgh, oh shit oh shit were all going to die

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pseudomonas January 6 2008, 21:22:17 UTC
I thought that aircraft didn't carry oxygen but chemical oxygen generators, at least for the main masks-that-drop-down stuff; possibly they have other contexts for oxygen, like medical supplies.

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_nicolai_ January 6 2008, 21:28:47 UTC
This varies between aircraft types, some use oxygen cylinders for the oxygen masks. If you need therapeutic oxygen (which I think is stored separately, in hand-carryable cylinders), I don't think one can substitute therapeutic nitrogen either.

Overall, who needs terrorists when we've got stupids?

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pseudomonas January 6 2008, 21:31:45 UTC
Ah, thanks for that.

The therapeutic oxygen was what I meant by medical. Either way, it'd be extremely bad news for anyone trying to breathe it.

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_nicolai_ January 6 2008, 21:41:54 UTC
I could see airlines wanting to carry therapeutic oxygen for passengers with breathing problems and therapeutic (... from the crew point of view) nitrogen for really annoying passengers...

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ciphergoth January 6 2008, 21:43:31 UTC
on a stick.

I can't get the image of what would happen when the masks dropped down out of my head.

That is one magic fuckup.

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scy11a January 8 2008, 15:39:58 UTC
Actually, the passenger oxygen would've been fine as that produced from oxygen generators in the overhead passenger service units. The flight deck crew get their O2 from a bottle which gently depletes as we have to do daily checks on the supply and also tiny leaks. At EZY they have to send the bottles away and put in a new one for just this reason - to protect against f*ck ups! Also, to reassure all you nervous passengers, the first action cabin crew take in case of a pilot incapacitation is to administer their own therapeutic oxygen, so the chances of all of them being filled with N2 is quite remote.

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zotz January 7 2008, 03:47:29 UTC
I've told you that story about Chris Morris, haven't I?

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zotz January 7 2008, 11:16:09 UTC
A sketch involving filling a newsroom with helium.

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grendelis January 7 2008, 11:19:08 UTC
hmmmm, Australian air support crews strike again.... don't let them touch your baggage either!

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sclerotic_rings January 7 2008, 14:19:03 UTC
"The first rule of Project Mayhem is you do not ask questions, sir."

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