lazy carnivores... not morally permissible!

Aug 24, 2007 10:10

http://www.noah-online.org/cost.html

solid essay.  feel free to discuss with me.
if necessary, i also have many articles on
vegetarianism in the bible.  so, what?
i want a dialogue!

fuckin. go vegetarian, or vegan.  now.

you *can* afford it.  and if you really think you 
can't, blame government and private industry 
subsidies making meat so so so much ( Read more... )

vegetarianism, prince

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protagonist1984 August 31 2007, 14:28:51 UTC
If I were a hunter and only killed what I needed to eat and never more, would that be better even though the animals I kill go through a pretty terrible death and dismemberment?

I wouldn't be using fossil fuels or polluting streams. I wouldn't be ingesting antibiotic ladden meat or by products. The animal will have suffered. Bullets and arrows hurt. I'm sure I wouldn't be a good shot every time.

I mean, the physical and environmental health aspects of vegetarianism and veganism are appealing, but the guilt trip about compassion and morality is not.

Not that I believe in much of anything in the Bible, but there was that whole section on the ritual slaughter of animals for no other purpose than to appease God....

There's your dialouge.

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ziggystardust00 September 1 2007, 05:39:05 UTC
haha, the bible stuff is a reference to an email i composed for my mother (a Catholic, capital C) in order to offer her a more "convincing" argument for vegetarianism, just a little tongue-in-cheek cheeky intellectualism for my poor mum ( ... )

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protagonist1984 September 1 2007, 13:23:52 UTC
I agree that 'out of sight, out of mind' is simply a denial of reality. At best, if I were to stop eating meat it would only be to satisfy my personal feelings and to keep myself from feeling that I have added to the suffering and slaughter of countless animals.

At the same time I would feel cheap. Ceasing the omni- part of my -vore would not end their suffering but at least *I* don't have to feed bad? I'd never stop feeling bad until the world stopped eating meat and frankly, I don't have the will to try to convince other people.

Knowing going vegetarian would not impact anything keeps me from really giving a damn.

Pessimistic omnivorousness? I think so. At least I'm being honest.

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ziggystardust00 September 5 2007, 00:06:13 UTC
vegetarianism is not really about relieving yourself of meat-guilt ( ... )

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protagonist1984 September 5 2007, 03:37:18 UTC
It's not really an opinion so much as a statement of my problem. I'm too fucking lazy and I've presented a nice logical fallacy for myself to cushion the truth with.

I have a similar issue with my use of petroleum products.

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ziggystardust00 September 5 2007, 15:07:08 UTC
you can do it!

partner up with someone...it makes it easier if there are two people to keep eachother in check.
You can overcome laziness if you really want to do something about it. I mean, you got your badge, so what aren't you capable of? (seriously!)

:)

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protagonist1984 September 5 2007, 16:44:19 UTC
unassisted flight.

For now.

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ziggystardust00 September 5 2007, 18:27:24 UTC
<3!

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