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laury_kos May 14 2012, 04:32:39 UTC
Those thoughts might have never crossed her mine before, but after Kaname confessed all those awful things he did to Zero,here:
Zero:http://i18.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/78/vampire-knight-2935717.jpg
Kaname:http://i39.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/79/vampire-knight-3014973.jpg http://i1.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/79/vampire-knight-3014975.jpg http://i30.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/79/vampire-knight-3014977.jpg

I think she understands now,
http://i29.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/79/vampire-knight-3015015.jpg still, as you said she have chosen Kaname but she seems like she doesn't want the same things Kaname wants http://i37.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/79/vampire-knight-3015017.jpg , she even trusted Sara to Zero http://i28.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/80/vampire-knight-3099591.jpg

I think there's no doubt Zero still loves Yuuki, but he is just so heart broken cuz Yuuki keeps choosing Kaname's side despite everything
:C as I said it breaks my heart

Also, there are signs everywhere, don't you think? since everyone is on kaname's side, supporting and everything , even though they all know what awful things he has done!.

well, I think the series still has a couple of more years of on going chaps until is over :S

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cowardlylion9 May 14 2012, 08:04:49 UTC
Fuck,seeing all their faces makes everything worse...I can't understand Yuuki,seriously. I know they're vampires etc etc but it's disgusting seeing such a couple anyway. I also think it's not a good example for young minds. Girls should not stand and try to help their partners no matter what,you know? He killed people and literally played with the life of a friend she knew for her entire life and she just keeps on finding excuses? At this point I don't even bother,really. When she'll find him I bet my ass she will just listen to him and won't even be mad at him for half second. And of course, since he'll explain to her that this was all for her safety since he loves her soooo much she's not going to be anything else but supportive.

Poor Zero,seriously.I think he should love someone else.It makes too much sense for this manga falling in love with the person you've known for your entire life,loool. Better off loving a person you clearly never knew all along and that turned out to be a manipulative serial killer as long as it's for your safety things won't ever get creepy,~ that's true love for you.

Is it still successful? Honestly I've stopped caring right after Yuuki became a vampire...I can't imagine a fandom being so loyal all these years when things proceed so slow all the time.

Thanks for these caps and for your thoughts :') you're most kind.

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laury_kos May 15 2012, 20:45:22 UTC
ooww I'm sorry :/
well, at least they are not bella and edward,lol at least Yuuki is trying to do her best of the sittuation, in fact she tries to fight Kaname(fight that lasted a few pages,since its -Kaname-), to stop him by all means, yet she doesn't
believe him when he constantly says Yuuki has become a hindrance in his plans, which she has (Kaname's initial plan was to kill all vampires , including himself, but he fell for Yuuki so he cannot kill her, so he is using Zero to protect her aswell) But agree on that she keeps finding excuses for him, srsly, She said before, "she knows little about Kaname's true self" , yet there she is, like he owns him something. I think Kaname and Yuuki's relationship has gotten repetitive and predictable hasn't it??

I don't think Zero should fall in love with someone else, it doesn't resolve anything. I think he needs closure, which he tried to have, saying "he kissed Yuuki's corpse the day Ichiru died as a way to say goodbye to the Yuuki he knew",but after seeing her again and they way she still acted and looked him was the same, he is confused and troubled about it, so he focus on his mission of killing Kaname for all the things he has done.So I think closure and forgiving Yuuki will bring him peace.

You mean the series?, yes it still is.I also think it went down a bit since Yuuki became a vampire and left school, but so much things have been revealed ever since. And Yuuki and Kaname's relationship was skipped one year, and so we could be back on track on Yuuki pinning on Zero, Kaname being all mysterious, then to Kaname leaving Yuuki and she re-opening the night class, which brings us back to the start. I don't mind vampire!Yuuki, I think she is , more mature, in some ways,darker, and cold. She is well aware nothing can be ever be the same. and I do believe she was happier as a human ,"ignorance is bliss"; she seems sad all the time with her being a vampire, even when she lived with Kaname, she was just sad...
The fandom went down, like a lot, still vampire_knight is pretty active , but not as it was before, I'm out of the fandom, but I do read the manga, but I don't expected as much as I did 2 years ago, when waiting for next was agony, now the cliff hangers the mangaka leaves gives me nothing, like "bleh, we will find out later" ,since as you said, things go so very slow and in circles

oh, you're welcome.....lol such a long response, sorry.

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cowardlylion9 May 22 2012, 20:21:51 UTC
I can't believe I was so rude and did not answer you straight away,lol Sorry!
They might not be Bella and Edward which is good for Yuuki,but their romance suck anyway. I don't think I'll ever understand how they could proclaim their undying love for each other when they never bothered with getting to know each other. They've completely skipped that phase,and because they don't really know/understand each other there are all the troubles. And yet,I have to believe they're madly in love,ok. Totally excellent love writing up here.
I think the only worst couple there is out there is Chuck/Blair,but that's because he's a rapist and abusive fucker and she apparently enjoyes being treated like shit.

Omg when Zero kissed her corpse...;___________________________; I just hope he won't end up with Yuuki just because Kaname jumps off a cliff due to his mental problems. If she's ever going to end up with him,it better be because she loves only him.
I wouldn't mind the closure you've described.

I thought the story was so much better with Yuuki staying at school. And not only because of the good Zeki we got to see back then,I just really loved the school environment,sigh.You know the only time when she wasn't sad as a vampire?!

http://i17.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/60/vampire-knight-1317359.jpg

Omg just seeing her fucking calm expression. Like,she doesn't need anything else in the world except keep on smelling Zero's scent. My heart.

They're good fans,to be honest.

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laury_kos May 23 2012, 04:02:14 UTC
Oh, don't worry about it.

"I don't think I'll ever understand how they could proclaim their undying love for each other when they never bothered with getting to know each other. They've completely skipped that phase,and because they don't really know/understand each other there are all the troubles. And yet,I have to believe they're madly in love,ok. "



You're so right, never seen it that way. But I do think Kaname knows Yuuki too well, that's why he is always one stpe ahead of her, Yuuki on the other hand knows so little about him.Now that you pput it that way, not sure if Yuuki is even "in love" with Kaname, maybe she just loves him and pity him, I dunno...
And , yes, i think Hino Matsuri wrote that way on purpose, if not, wtf. I think Matsuri-san did it on purpose since the main paring is always ambiguous.

Yeahp, Zero said that, I think my heart just broke into pieces:
http://i38.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/81/vampire-knight-3172633.jpg
http://i29.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/81/vampire-knight-3172635.jpg

Agree, if Zeki ever ends up together, I would like it to be because Yuuki chose him, not because Kaname pushed her into Zero's arms.

aaawww that moment!!(what chapter was?), it was so perfect, I think it was one of the few times Yuuki let go, and enjoyed the moment,cuz when she finally bit Zero she was all focused and rigid. Back then she just wanted to be in Zero's arms and devour him. I hated how Kaname punished Yuuki because of that, but i'll not talk about it,hahaha.

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cowardlylion9 May 24 2012, 13:50:22 UTC
I know it seems like Kaname knows her too well,but it buggers me the same,since,you know,he doesn't actually,it's not like they had the time. He seems to know her like he knows everybody else. He can easily predict everybody's moves,it's not really a big deal for him.

The punishment was just so gross,I can't.
I was wondering did Yuuki still feel thirsty after she bited Zero?

Aw,and that was chapter 60 in all his wonderful glory.

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cowardlylion9 May 25 2012, 16:29:53 UTC
Omg so sorry to bother your endlessly about this..but...omg did you read the latest chapter?
1svbvhj!!! Can't fucking believe it,seriously. So happy.

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laury_kos May 25 2012, 23:10:14 UTC
Well Kaname did have the time to know Yuki, he grown up with her,then he took care of her when she was human, though he did spend little time with her during her teen years, thanks to Zero XD
In all fairness, Yuki did surprised Kaname when he found out Yuki "loved" Zero as much as he loved Kaname.

that punishment was meant to be fan service, maybe, vampire going all S/M , its most likely Matsuri wanted to go all kinky with the characters, tells a lot of the vampire nature.

oh, nonsense, you are the only one I talk about VK in the mean time, since I've been out of the fandom :P
I added you as a friend, if you don't mind.

yes!, I read, I was about to answer you back yesterday when I read the chap, but RL got in the way, sorry
I know, I'm happy, I dunno, all this talking about Zeki brought hope to me somehow
Zero joining forces with Yuki, agghh my heart

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