Racism And Sexism In Tangled - Or, Okay WHAT Are These People Smoking?

[zelda_queen]

ZeldaQueen: Right. This is one bit of idiocy that threw me for a bit of a loop. Warnings folks, this will have spoilers for the movie Tangled. If you want to read the original article, it's available here

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[white_wolf03]

So how does being black mean you understand the complications of hair?

And Mother Gothel, using my sister as a comparision, actually looks half-Asian to me. Just something I noted. Had no one pointed out that she looked different though, I probably wouldn't have noticed.

[zelda_queen]

I'm not entirely certain. I think she meant it as characters have hair that isn't "black", like the style not the color or...I don't know. O_o

She looks a little darker, but that's because, for most of the movie, she goes slinking around at night or is inside the tower. Rapunzel, meanwhile, spends most of the movie running around in the sun. It's another example of how they're foils. It's like that argument that Jaffar has darker skin than Aladdin, and they use a pic where Aladdin's standing next to a glowing object.

[aikaterini]

/It's like that argument that Jaffar has darker skin than Aladdin, and they use a pic where Aladdin's standing next to a glowing object./

Ah, yes, I've heard that argument before. I think it's also because Jafar has a hooked nose, a feature that's usually used in insulting, racist depictions of Jews and Arabs, while Aladdin and Jasmine do not.

However, in the animated television series of "Aladdin," friends and foes come in all colors. For example, Sadira has darker skin than Aladdin and Jasmine, and originally, she is indeed a villain (albeit a misguided one), but by the end of the series, she gets over her attraction to Aladdin (which is what caused her to become a villain in the first place) and becomes Jasmine's friend. On the other hand, Mozenrath, who's one of the main villains of the series, is *very* pale. I'm serious, he's noticeably paler than Aladdin and Jasmine, and in some shots of him, his skin looks as white as cream.

[zelda_queen]

"Ah, yes, I've heard that argument before. I think it's also because Jafar has a hooked nose, a feature that's usually used in insulting, racist depictions of Jews and Arabs, while Aladdin and Jasmine do not."

Ah, I see. Aladdin had a pretty large, angular schnoze though. Jasmine, not so much, but then that's more of a female Disney character trait (Nostalgia Chick: "Why does Pocahontas have no nose? Was her father Lord Voldemort?" XD)

[overlordmikey]

Actully the quote is

[zelda_queen]

I always loved Belle because she stood up for herself. She never let anyone walk over her, plus she loved to read. XD

I don't get it either. Disney is a COMPANY. It's got an ever-changing number of people working there. It's not like it's got the exact same people from 1920, twirling their mustache and laughing about how they could be racially insensitive.

[aikaterini]

Yes, Belle is my favorite Disney Princess too, and "Beauty and the Beast" is my favorite Disney movie of all time. ^^

I love Belle because I can identify with her so much - a dreamy, brunette bookworm. To finally have a princess who was an honest-to-goodness smart bookworm was amazing.

I could go on and on about how Belle is awesome, but I think that I'd be here all day. XD

[overlordmikey]

ZeldaQueen:I always loved Belle because she stood up for herself. She never let anyone walk over her, plus she loved to read. XD

[aikaterini]

/Mikey: Yeah! :) I hate those people who claim she had Stockholm syndrome. Apparently character development just doesn’t exist

[overlordmikey]

Before we start - awesome avatar/icon! :)

Yes they exist and most arn't even men - they just think Gaston is better looking!

I'd like to note some people didn't even notice Darcy was proud in Pride and Prejudice. There is this horrible dating book I've heard of that calls Darcy the perfect gentlemen and say that Elizabeth was wrong about him and that her character devlopment is realising she was wrong about him. And then offers help finding the persons own Mr. Darcy.

Guess they only saw the damn movie... [shudders]

[aikaterini]

/Before we start - awesome avatar/icon

[overlordmikey]

aikaterini:I didn't think that Gaston was that handsome

[zelda_queen]

"I say they are both Pride and Prejudice - although Mr. Darcy is more Pride well Elizabeth is more Prejudice."

I always got that feeling as well. Lizzie was proud of her ability to judge people, but was influenced by her prejudice and thus failed to think of the reasons Darcy had for his actions (looking out for his friend and sister, etc). Darcy, meanwhile, was proud of his station and prejudiced about Lizzie's lower class and thus looked down his nose at her and almost missed her own good qualities.

Is the modern one "Bride and Prejudice"? Because that one was kind of awesome. Plus it had singing! :D

[overlordmikey]

No~ haven't seen that.

I do love a good musical though~ :)

[zelda_queen]

Ah. I do recommend it, though. XD It's cute and fun and makes a surprising amount of sense.