Breaking Dawn: Chapter 14 - You Know Things Are Bad When You Feel Guilty For Being Rude To Vampires

Feb 26, 2010 21:53

Projection Room Voices: Ready to start again after your break?

ZeldaQueen: Yes, my "break", in which you forced me to spork another of Halcyon's nudist Mary Sue fics.

Projection Room Voices: It still counts.
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you know things are bad when you feel gu, chapter 14, fic: breaking dawn, suethor: stephenie meyer, book 4

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aikaterini February 28 2010, 17:02:59 UTC
/*holds head* NOT ALL RELATIONSHIPS ARE ROMANTIC, YOU PUTZ! ARE YOU SO DENSE THAT YOU WON'T ACCEPT THAT SHE CONSIDERS YOU A FRIEND?/

No, because according to Meyer, unless both parties are already in relationships, a boy and a girl can never have a purely platonic relationship. *snorts*

/Rosalie comes in as Jacob leaves, just in time for him to get in a blond joke. Get used to them folks, Meyer more or less uses Rosalie as this book's whipping boy/girl for her blond hatred. Edward chuckles at Jacob insulting Rosalie - isn't she Edward's sister? - and Rosalie shouts back that she's heard that one already./

Just another example of Meyer throwing the whole concept of family out the window. I don't care if Rosalie isn't Edward's real sister or if they hardly get along; she's still his adoptive sister and they live in the same house. Besides, I thought that Edward hated Jacob. But, oh, no, he'll gladly side with the "dog," just as long as Rosalie is the one being mocked. *growls*

Also, I hated Jacob's blonde jokes. I'm not even blonde and I found them to be obnoxious, offensive, and pitiful. Not to mention random - since when has Jacob hated blondes? People have said that Meyer doesn't like blondes or resented blondes in high school, and if that's true, then that's really sad.

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zelda_queen February 28 2010, 17:40:46 UTC
"No, because according to Meyer, unless both parties are already in relationships, a boy and a girl can never have a purely platonic relationship. *snorts*"

Right. All of Bella's male friends in school want to get in her pants and Jacob went from being a friend to being a "love interest". Apparently two people of opposite genders are impossible to just stay friends. And given that Meyer's said that one of Bella's TEACHERS found her very attractive and that (or so I've heard) the original version of "Twilight" had her go to Forks because her stepdad was coming on to her...yeep!

"Just another example of Meyer throwing the whole concept of family out the window."

It seriously reminds me of "Hogwarts Exposed", when Hermione magically threatens Ginny and Ron LAUGHS. Once more, love interests > family.

I guess Meyer was going for the idea that Edward and Jacob were both angry with Rosalie for allowing Bella to go through with the pregnancy. But considering that both of them thought that a drugging and forced abortion were good options, that loses any weight it might have carried.

"People have said that Meyer doesn't like blondes or resented blondes in high school, and if that's true, then that's really sad."

Well it certainly seems true. She's really none too subtle about it.

Thanks for reading! :)

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aikaterini March 1 2010, 00:38:43 UTC
/And given that Meyer's said that one of Bella's TEACHERS found her very attractive and that (or so I've heard) the original version of "Twilight" had her go to Forks because her stepdad was coming on to her...yeep!/

Oh, yes, I heard about that, too. Even though it would make Bella's angst about having to leave Phoenix more genuine and dramatic...seriously, Meyer, what on earth were you thinking?

/It seriously reminds me of "Hogwarts Exposed", when Hermione magically threatens Ginny and Ron LAUGHS. Once more, love interests > family./

Ugh, now I'm reminded of another annoying trend in Meyer's work. Not only is family seen as petty and disposable, but so is friendship. Bella completely ditches her friends the moment that she marries Edward. In Cassandra Claire's "Mortal Instruments" trilogy, the protagonist, Clary, constantly fails to stand up for her best friend, Simon, whenever her love interest, Jace, belittles him - even when he does it right in front of her! Simon is supposed to be her best friend, yet Clary utters not a peep of protest (or, when she does, it's temporary and half-hearted) whenever Jace or his buddies insult him. She just ignores it, says nothing, or goes along with it (just like Seth and the other werewolves go along with Sam's imprinting, even when it hurts Leah). And they're supposed to be best friends?

/Well it certainly seems true. She's really none too subtle about it./

Were all the girls who were mean to her in high school blonde? ALL of them? Really? Some of the mean girls in my high school were blondes, others were brunettes like me, most of them were white, some of them were black, a few of them were Asian, etc. Yet somehow I've managed to have friends who are blond, Asian, black, etc. without making stupid jokes about them because I realize that it's completely juvenile and immature! Yeah, those girls were bullies. Yes, they were annoying and mean. That doesn't give me the right to negatively stereotype other girls who happen to look like them.

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zelda_queen March 1 2010, 01:24:45 UTC
"Ugh, now I'm reminded of another annoying trend in Meyer's work. Not only is family seen as petty and disposable, but so is friendship. Bella completely ditches her friends the moment that she marries Edward. In Cassandra Claire's "Mortal Instruments" trilogy, the protagonist, Clary, constantly fails to stand up for her best friend, Simon, whenever her love interest, Jace, belittles him - even when he does it right in front of her! Simon is supposed to be her best friend, yet Clary utters not a peep of protest (or, when she does, it's temporary and half-hearted) whenever Jace or his buddies insult him."

Also brings "Rose Potter" to mind. Oh but hey - I've never read Cassandra Claire's work, but didn't Meyer say she was a fan? Might explain a lot.

It's hard to say. I've sporked the rants of a woman who seems certain that EVERY white man in existence is a rapist with no redeeming characteristics. People can get pretty weird. Or, it could have just been that Meyer never had any good experiences in particular with blonds. Or she's just really sucky with Take That's.

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