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Apr 04, 2006 10:56

w00t i am l33t or however u write it..... i asked this question in class and everyone (class of 450-500) was silent, and then 6 people asked the teacher questions about it after class...... made me feel that my question was important....... u know what the proff did when i asked it.... he toppled over (bent down) and laughed.... lol funny action ( Read more... )

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Re: sorry katie....gotta use you for a sec... zeeblue April 5 2006, 21:26:42 UTC
somehow, my faith in katie is dfferent.... i can deny katie.... i can see her flaws.... Katie is not suppose to be perfect, i can know all about katie, yet u cant know all about god... i know that katie has X personality trate, so her reason for the specific actions will be some how she related to her X personality trate...... u cant do that for god, which is probably why i dont/will never have faith in him.

if god is supose to be perfect (NO FAWS) (unlike kaite)......then.....
why do u believe/have faith in God when it has soo many contradiction?

yeah like the world was really created in 7 days...... yeah rationalize that one......

if god does exist then there should be a way to rationalize his existance..... or not and go on faith....
u cant rationalize god's existance...... so what does that mean.... he doesnt exist? or will u say 'have faith i know he exists.... where is your proff, oh yeah u have none... so why do u believe in him again???
honestly why do u believe in him.... what did he do for you... hes going to send u to hevan if.... screw that... some times it seems like the only reason god exists is so u can go to heven when u die....

if god exists what purpose does he serve.....

I WANT DETALED ANSWERS
and sorry for being mean and blunt this time.....

thanks katie for being our example <3

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Re: sorry katie....gotta use you for a sec... utopian_faults April 5 2006, 22:49:53 UTC
watch it kid...we're discussing the christian faith....not attacking each other.

there is some discrepency on how long a "day" lasted actually...there are clues throughout the bible that suggest a day might have lasted a milenia....because think about what a day is...
or a year....without planets or a sun, what would a day be??

once again...you are thinking about this in terms of personal gain. there's no way to know what he wants from you...cuz that would make it your plan instead of god's plan...

dont fall into the trap of thinking people have to believe in god....they WANT to...you may ask them about their faith, but it isnt your place to ask "how could you believe in a god that doesnt- etc."

accepting god takes on a higher plane of reasoning...this is nothing like loving your father, or your pet, or anything else...

thirdly, he doesnt send people to heaven....technically, he invites them through him.

*sigh* any human being, upon getting the "facts" for a serious lack of a better word, has two choices...
he can see that maybe there is another being out there pulling the strings...faith, yes....FAITH....a word im afraid you still dont understand...tells him a perfect being CAN have holes in his story...maybe being perfect means not following the same rules as humans.

or

you can chalk it up as a poorly written fairy tale....a hoax that you cant believe because someone didnt lay down every fact in front of you...there are phenomina out there other than the existence of god that hove no scientic proof....

if you dont believe in god, what DO you believe in...

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Re: sorry katie....gotta use you for a sec... zeeblue April 5 2006, 23:55:44 UTC
ok i was attacking the religion, when im talking to u i mean the religion not u....(sorry for the confustion)
and what if 'day' is not the only 'discrepency'.
what if 'perfect' was one of those discrepency....

isnt the point of region personal gain (try not to get mad) but isnt it.... think when it 1st started
is the point of religion to explaine what we dont understand.... like the Greek gods and Mythology and all that (they explained things...) so when greek mythology evolved to christianity... why would u want to belive in god WHY??? (i am asking u and christians in general....)

i do not WANT to belive in god.... in place of that, i believe in myself.... i do not WANT to believe in god... i beleive in the strength of all human kind, together we can do graet things.... i think god is irrelevent for humans to do great things..... the belife in god seems to hold humans back, b/c its one more difference that we have to worry about.... i believe in people, not god.... (when i say i dont belive in god, i mean that i dont believe he is going to help human kind) (if your a christian would u not go 'yeah right, he sent christ to erase all our sins... thats what he did for us' right?.... well im hessitant to say that christ existed..... so yeah.... if there was a 'christ' he probably wasnt a 'god' in my eyes...... but anyway......)

i dont think religion is all lies.... but it has contraictions.... show me a religion without contradictions, and i might belive in that.... as of now the only thing that doesnt have contradictions is morality.... which is the why i am going to live my life.....

love u... and no i dont fully comprehend 'faith' (of the religious kind) i dont think i ever will

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