I think this might be my favorite coda so far. It's such an interesting and refreshing take on Castiel vs Lucifer. Plus I'm more of a fan of Badass!Cas than I am of woobie!Cas. Great job.
Hey, thanks muchly! I'm not actually averse to a touch of woobie!Cas but for me it needs to be threaded with his sheer badassery and snark, and I think it's a difficult balance to achieve! In the case of that ep I can't honestly conceive of why Lucifer should frighten him at this point in his existence!
I can't see Lucifer getting to him in the same ways he did with Sam, certainly. I think if he did, it would be either by presenting Cas with images of people he's betrayed to death and with whom there is therefore no hope of reconciliation (Balthazar, Rachel, etc), or (and/or?) with the I AM YOU method, pointing out how far Cas went and how unforgivable he is, just like Lucifer. They'd be Cas' weak points, I think, rather than straightforward torture (because, yes, why would he fear that?).
And yes, too much woobie/damsel Cas does get a bit wearing. Cas has RESOURCES and TERRIFYINGNESS. Which he uses just fine, so long as he doesn't think he deserves what's happening to him...
Poor confused Hallucifer.
(From which you may deduce - this was great fun, and slyly written. Thanks!)
Thanks muchly! I'm pleased it worked for you… I think it's easy to forget how devious Cas can be when one is immersing oneself in the angsty woobie goodness that 7.17 teed up, but I do like to nod to that aspect of his character when I write him, if I can.
with the I AM YOU method, pointing out how far Cas went and how unforgivable he is, just like Lucifer
Oh totally… that'd be really interesting to see, too, though I (sadly) have my doubts that we will…
Um. We may... but only, I suspect, if it serves Dean's emotional arc. Sadly, despite being (from our perspective) one of the main characters as of 4x01, Cas almost never gets to determine emotional arcs all on his own. :(
Gah, more's the pity because he has been the most interesting character for me for a while, and I think writing him out as it did was a big mistake by the show when there is so much potential for exploring the character in ways they can't or won't (at least not fully) with Sam and Dean...
Well, but that's the trouble. It would be very very difficult to write out his character arc in a way that doesn't either enter more positively into a romantic relationship with Dean (which, yes, I CAN understand why they don't want to, and very possibly why Misha and/or Jensen wouldn't' be comfortable with it) or with making Cas into too much of a solve-all superbomb (which has really been the problem from as early as angels were introduced - how do we stop this super-powerful character from solving all their problems for them?).
And honestly, would we be satisfied with anything less?
(One thing I could personally be happy with is making him completely human and making him come to terms, in his own awesome and occasionally snide way, with that - but I suspect that's a bridge they don't want ot burn. So, they remain all caught between possibilities. Poor Cas.)
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And yes, too much woobie/damsel Cas does get a bit wearing. Cas has RESOURCES and TERRIFYINGNESS. Which he uses just fine, so long as he doesn't think he deserves what's happening to him...
Poor confused Hallucifer.
(From which you may deduce - this was great fun, and slyly written. Thanks!)
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with the I AM YOU method, pointing out how far Cas went and how unforgivable he is, just like Lucifer
Oh totally… that'd be really interesting to see, too, though I (sadly) have my doubts that we will…
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And honestly, would we be satisfied with anything less?
(One thing I could personally be happy with is making him completely human and making him come to terms, in his own awesome and occasionally snide way, with that - but I suspect that's a bridge they don't want ot burn. So, they remain all caught between possibilities. Poor Cas.)
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