~Fun with Star Control 2 - The Eternal Doctrine

[zarla]

And so we return to Star Control 2 for the final time, I think. I feel weird calling this "fun with" since this isn't going to be fun, but I'd hate to break screencap adventure tradition.

Anyway, curious_velvet mentioned that she heard that if you let the Kohr-Ah destroy a race, you can then go to their homeplanet and scan it. This could be really helpful in

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[ananonymousfox]

Ya know, assuming Earth was the last place on their "cleanse" list which it sounds like, they don't actually kill off all the races since they never went after the Slylandro or any of the slave worlded planets except Earth, so technically the Chmmr would have woken up normally in 20 years and be able to wake up the Syreen, the Spathi, the Earthlings in Vela, the Shofixti if they set up their homeworld in Delta Gorno again, etc.

Course I have to wonder if any of the races could have escaped if "the words" were spoken to them.

[zarla]

We don't know if it was the last world they hit or just one of the last ones, cause after they got rid of Starbase they could just go and clean up everyone else. I didn't check Vela or anything, but even if I did I couldn't make sure that they were alive since they'd be slaveshielded and I couldn't land. I'm assuming in general that they would have just continued killing forever, moving on and out. The Chmmr might arise if the Kohr-Ah overlooked them, but who would they arise to save? They'd be the only ones left.

I don't know if any races know The Words that survive...the Pkunk knew them and the Melnorme knew them, I think, but they both get wiped out or vanish respectively. Hmm.

[ananonymousfox]

Well for the races surviving I was going based on the fact the Kohr-Ah stated in the end sequence that they had already destroyed all races and now destroyed the Earth's Star Base. Course I suppose it doesn't even say that they destroyed Earth so it's possible they can't break through the slave shields and I'm pretty sure the Kzer-Za won't give them the key to break it. As for the Slylandro, they might not even remember it's there.

I find it amusing how so many of the other races seem to be on a planet with less gravity, but almost 2x+ times our atmospheric pressure. Now I have to wonder if leaving the probes alone (not getting the slylandro to recall them) would help or hurt the amount of time before the Kohr-Ah win.

[zarla]

Hmm, that's true. I didn't check around after the Yehat were killed, or the Syreen or planets they passed by on their way to others, so it's possible they might have gotten away, but it seems odd that the Kohr-Ah would be willing to leave a species slaveshielded alone. I'm not sure if they can break the shield or not, but if they did they would without a doubt. Hmm. One of those questions with no answer really.

Heh, that would be an odd tradeoff. I don't think the Probes affect anything if you get rid of them or not, except make it easier to travel in space.

[ananonymousfox]

IF the Kohr-Ah overlooked the slave-shielded worlds (either because they can't break the shields or because they consider it more important to deal with free species first), then the Chmmr would eventually awaken and free the humans (both Earth and Unzervalt), the Spathi, the Syreen (Gaia), and um... I think that's all.

And the Slylandro may survive, because apparently the Ur-Quan genetic memory (I'm guessing they have one, anyway) is not good enough to recall their existence (or perhaps just their location), and they have forgotten that life could possibly exist on gas giants.

Then again, the Kohr-Ah MAY remember when they spoke to the Slylandro, before they were enslaved, and go on and destroy them.

And of course the Orz and the Arilou survive in much the same way the Taalo likely did.

> The Royalists go first.
I thought the lighter sphere was the rebels. In fact, I'm pretty certain it is, because when I visit the rebels I make sure that I am in the small area of pink Yehat space that does not overlap the purple Yehat space...

[ananonymousfox]

Oh yes, the Melnorme survive too, because they leave this region of space before the Kohr-Ah win the Doctrinal Conflict. (Remember that thing about the Metachron or something?)