Eligibility Rules

[jenn_calaelen]

ELIGIBILITY

Yuletide is a small fandoms exchange. As well as making sure the fandoms are rare enough, it is important to us to make sure the fandoms don't overlap and are organized in a way that helps requests and offers match.

Main Principle
Fandoms will be approved if their total number of stories on AO3 and fanfiction.net, added together, is

Comments

[doreyg]

I'm not sure if this is the place to ask, please correct me if not!, but what would the rules be on different versions of characters? In my mind DCAU!Bruce Wayne and DCAU!Clark Kent are quite different from their comics/films counterparts and both have under 1000 works to their name, but I'm still not really sure if they'd be eligible or not.

I suppose what I'm really asking is... Is it worth taking them to the eligibility post, or will they automatically be out of the running?

[hhertzof]

Quoting from above: However, different versions of the character may be nominated in fandoms that are adaptations, reboots, or different universes to the universe(s) in which they are too popular. We'd definitely consider the Animated Universe as separate from the comics and movie verses and count only their appearances there. You'd want to filter their appearances under DC Animated Universe to see if they are eligible in that fandom.

[doreyg]

Ahh, awesome! Thank you so much! That helps a lot. :)

[azarsuerte]

So does that mean the CBS Supergirl version of Kara (& other characters) would still be eligible even if the comics version isn't?

[reyka_sivao]

The Star Trek spin-off novels are in again this year? Oh, thank you! My day, it is made!

*happily adds tiny sub-fandom to nominations*

[jenn_calaelen]

Yes, with the same caveats as last year (although iirc all the ones nommed were totally fine). :)

[reyka_sivao]

Of course! Mine did get in last year--but I wasn't sure if the decision would be maintained this year.

The team I want has four fics that I know of...two of which are mine. And one of THOSE I wrote as a treat last year, because ANOTHER PERSON REQUESTED IT OMG.

...don't mind me, I've descended into excited flailing. But thank you again!

[morbane]

Oh no! Excited flailing! How terrible!

:D

[lorata]

Every year I read this post and get overwhelmed just looking at it, never mind actually being the ones to do all the wrangling. Mods, as always you have my awe and gratitude. *\o/*

[izzybeth]

oh god, SECONDING. I rarely bother with nominations just because I get so confused, and I just tend to go through the signups list and pick from what's there.

GO MODS, you're all amazing!

[jenn_calaelen]

Thank you! It is certainly complicated - especially as we have to try and cover all the variety of fandoms and questions people come up with (although there are always new mysteries - one of the things that makes noms sorting fun).

[jenn_calaelen]

Thank you!

[desert_vixen]

So happy to see this (although I still wish we could have 4 fandoms to nominate because deciding is SO hard) and working on what I want to request.

Good luck to the mods!

[jenn_calaelen]

Thank you, and good luck deciding!

[hauntologies]

why are there such stringent rules about comics crossovers? i am baffled as to why we can't have years of future past... it's basically just a miniseries?

i know it's super complicated, but secret wars is all that marvel IS this year (well, since may), so not allowing any tie-ins kind of means no nominations for current marvel comics, other than the small handful of titles that aren't involved...

[hhertzof]

The short answer is that it is super-complicated. It's difficult enough establishing whether a character appeared in a comic book run without factoring in short run series that may stand on their own or may all tie back to the original line-wide crossover.

There are plenty of pre-Secret Wars titles to choose from, and by the time nominations start at least a few of the post-Secret Wars titles will have launched. You also have over 70 years of eligible comics runs to choose from.

I get that it's a fascinating AU. I've been following about half the spin-off series myself (including that one). However, our deadlines will cut way too close to the end of the series, to be able to tell if it all ties together or not.

[hauntologies]

i mean, i know there are a lot of pre-secret wars titles to pick from, but the secret wars series are the ones i've been reading and loving this year. and because of their brief runs this seemed like the best way to try and get some fic for them.

i know it's complicated, but it just makes me sad that something like the planet hulk miniseries, which has finished and didn't tie back to the main secret wars series in anything but the most cursory way, and which is about versions of those characters which won't appear anywhere else... can't be included.

i guess i just don't understand why this falls under the rule of the fandoms being too broad, when a lot of these comics can be broken down to their small component parts (one-shots, small miniseries) and they're a lot less broad than something like -- x-force, which is the name of numerous teams over twenty five years but would still be eligible

[hhertzof]

We've clarified the rule above, and hopefully it answers some of your questions.

We will be considering Secret Wars spin-off titles on a case by case basis next year. However, we're talking about a huge number of titles in which any character in the Marvel Universe could have appeared that have yet to be fully indexed online on wikis and indexes. To attempt to look at each title individually this year

This has been a massive event, and while I don't disagree with your points, attempting to vet every event spin-off (Marvel and DC) in a fair manner (which we have to assume we'd end up doing if we open it up) would slow down vetting to the point where everything else might be delayed as well. Next year, we'll have a better sense of which of the Secret Wars spin-offs stand alone and better resources for vetting, and we will take advantage of that, but it's just not feasible this year.