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Apr 25, 2007 17:35

can someone unconfuse me and tell me what is a "bosnian serb" and "bosnian croat?"

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ivorylines____ April 27 2007, 22:31:24 UTC
but not all bosnian orthodox christians are ethnically serb, are they? i mean aren't some actually bosnian? bosnians are mostly muslim aren't they? i mean ethnic bosnians. but there's not only one religion in bosnia. so it just seems incorrect for an ethnically bosnian person who's orthodox to call themselves "serbian" if they have nothing to do with the country or nationality.

but i see what you're saying.

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unchatenfrance April 30 2007, 23:01:52 UTC
My understanding from the various readings I've done in the past is that Bosnians (Muslims) are descendants of ethnic Serbs and Croats who converted to Islam in the 16th century, so in essence there is little to no ethnic difference between an ethnic Serb from Bosnia and an "ethnically Bosnian orthodox."

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ivorylines____ May 1 2007, 19:47:16 UTC
oh that does make sense, but it's so weird sometimes. people always say different things

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unchatenfrance May 3 2007, 00:13:33 UTC
Yeah, the confusing thing is that Serbs, Croats and Bosnians are of the same south slavic stock (ever notice how we look all so much alike lol), they just developed different cultural identities over time, and at various times. revisionist nationalists obviously always come up with outlandish claims to make their people different from the others (ie. croats as slavic-speaking uber-Aryans, or all other slavs descending from the serbs etc). it's the same with the spanish, italians, portuguese etc (all latin stock), but they began developing their separate identities earlier than us, so there's a more pronounced ethnic difference between them and between us.

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ivorylines____ May 3 2007, 20:05:24 UTC
ooh i see. so since an ethnically bosnian orthodox is called a bosnian serb, what would an ethnically serbian muslim be called?

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unchatenfrance May 4 2007, 02:04:07 UTC
what would an ethnically serbian muslim be called?

Gosh, this just seems to be a question of semantics more than anything else. Like theserbatron said above, it depends on what the individual chose to call him/herself. The other part to remember in all of this is that religious and national identities have become so closely bound over time - Croats are Catholic, Serbs are Orthodox, etc -so there are very few Serbs out there who are non-Orthodox, at least in name. The only exception would be the Gorani, who are ethnic Serbs adhering to Islam. They live in southeastern Kosovo, in that little corner formed by the Montenegrin and Albanian borders.

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unchatenfrance May 4 2007, 02:17:30 UTC
ivorylines____ May 4 2007, 02:51:15 UTC
oh i understand. after the wars everything is so blah.

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