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Character Name: Liquid Snake
Character Age: 33 years old (born in 1972)
Canon + Format: Metal Gear Solid (Video Game)
Background: The second of the three "sons of Big Boss", Liquid was cloned from Big Boss in 1972 as part of a secret government cloning program called Les Enfantes Terribles. He was one of eight clone babies created. Six of those babies never reached the stage of birth, sacrificed to help the two that survived, Liquid and Solid. Both clones were genetically modified, Liquid gaining the superior genes and Solid gaining the inferior. A later clone was also created, Solidus. Liquid's real name was classified to the point where even the highest ranks of the military do not know it, and he in fact denies having one, claiming that soldiers such as they don't have names.
Shortly after birth, Liquid was sent to the UK, raised there as a soldier-in-training. During his youth he was constantly treated poorly by his "father", emotionally abused and starved of love. As a result, he became considerably cold hearted, though less so in his youth than he would become later. Liquid was constantly referred to as "inferior", treated as worthless and became obsessed with proving his superiority to his father and brother. He also developed a false belief that his father had willingly undertaken the LET program and chose him to be inferior, due to his father's habit of referring to him as the inferior of the twins.
In 1990, at the age of 18, he joined the British SAS (Special Air Service), becoming the youngest person to serve there. Shortly afterwards he was assigned to an SAS unit in Iraq, sent to track down and destroy mobile SCUD missiles. This, however, was a cover; he was also working for the SIS as a sleeper agent. He was caught and imprisoned for four years as a POW, an event that helped shape his extreme levels of paranoia regarding imprisonment. Recent information gained does indicate that he was only a POW for a portion of the time before being brainwashed into terrorism. In 1994 he was rescued by the US government, though he never forgot. Five years later, in 1999, his father was killed by Solid Snake. Liquid developed a strong hatred for his brother following this incident, since he would never be able to get his revenge and prove himself by killing his father.
A year later, he joined FOXHOUND, his brother's unit. By that time Solid, then 28, had already retired despite his youth. Liquid became the field commander in his brother's absence. It was five years later that the next event of note in his life would occur.
In 2005 FOXHOUND was assigned to guard a nuclear disposal facility known as Shadow Moses, which doubled as a secret weapons development complex. Shadow Moses hosted a weapon known as a Metal Gear, a nuclear equiped bipedal giant robot that was considered to be the ultimate weapon. Under his command, the FOXHOUND Unit and the Genome Army took over the base, taking the world hostage under the threat of nuclear war. Their demands initially included the remains of his father, Big Boss, and a large amount of money. It was later discovered the money was to be used to cure the Genome Army, who had been genetically modified to become better soldiers but were dying from the modifications, indicating that Liquid was not entirely uncaring. Liquid's other intention was to recreate his father's dream, Outer Heaven, a military nation where soldiers would always have a place either on or off the battlefield. Solid Snake, his brother, was taken out of retirement and sent in to stop him. Unknown to either of them, at least at first, Solid had been infected with a deadly virus known as FOXDIE, which targetted specific genetic codes.
The terrorists had also taken into hostage two people of importance; the DARPA Chief Donald Anderson, one of the men involved in LET , and the president of ArmsTech, which had developed the Metal Gear, Kenneth Baker. Solid's orders were to retrieve them. Unfortunately for both Liquid and Solid, that plan was to fail dramatically. Revolver Ocelot, FOXHOUND's torture speciality, "accidentally" killed Anderson while trying to find out the startup codes for Metal Gear, one of which was held by each of the hostages. Their plan was not entirely lost, however. There was another method of starting up the weapon.
Prior to the game, Liquid poisoned Master Miller, the man who had trained Solid. Using the very basic disguise of wearing a shirt, tying his hair back and wearing sunglasses, he pretended to be Miller and guided the man throughout a good part of the game with the intent of leading him to his death. Decoy Octopus, another member of FOXHOUND disguised himself as Anderson to find out if Solid had any idea how to start up the Metal Gear, but was killed by a heart attack when FOXDIE activated. Soon after, Baker gave Solid a card, one of the three required to activate Metal Gear. In actuality it was three cards in one, but neither of the twins knew that at the time. Moments after, Baker also died from FOXDIE, alerting Liquid to the situation he had already been suspicious of.
As his brother worked his way through FOXHOUND towards him, Liquid continued to guide him, even after confronting him face to face several times. The first time they met in person was in battle; Liquid piloted his Hind-D to attack him, but was taken down by stinger missiles. Despite having no opportunity to use his parachute and escape, he not only survived but was able to return to the guise of Master Miller only moments later, leaving the parachute he failed to use as a marker for Solid to show he had survived. After Sniper Wolf captured his brother, Liquid mocked him with the knowledge of their sibling relationship, something Solid had been aware of, then left him to be tortured and imprisoned by Ocelot. At one point Liquid also tricked his brother into activating the Metal Gear with the Pal Card by staging a conversation as Liquid with Ocelot.
He also led his brother to be distracted with the treachery of the woman who developed FOXDIE, rather than paying attention to the other traitor in their ranks. It was only once his codec was traced back to Shadow Moses that he revealed himself as Liquid over the Codec that passed for a communications device. Soon afterwards, they met in person again.
Liquid explained the situation with FOXDIE to his brother, seeming entirely at ease despite the gun pointed at him and the factor of FOXDIE itself. He had come to the conclusion that FOXDIE was harmless to him, since their "genetic code" was identical. He also revealed that he had a spy in the Pentagon who had given him the information he needed. Following this talk he piloted Metal Gear REX in order to attack Solid, killing a former friend of Solid's in the process. However, the Metal Gear was defeated. Despite the explosion, he not only survived, but kept going. Solid had been knocked out by it, and he carried him up to the top of the ruined machine himself, despite his injuries. While his brother was unconscious, he made contact with the people behind FOXDIE - the Patriots - through Solid's nanomachines, threatening them.
Once his brother awoke, tied up and helpless, Liquid conversed with him a little longer, explaining his own views on the situation. He expressed his desire for soldiers such as them to have a purpose other than being used for political gambits, and noted that his brother had a darker side expressed only in battle. He also revealed the presence of Meryl Silverburgh, the daughter of one of Solid's friends, and the timed bomb on her back. The two fought once more, on top of Metal Gear, though Liquid once again lost. Despite his fall, as Snake and his friends attempted to escape, Liquid followed them, still determined to kill them and still able to fire. It was only FOXDIE that spared them his determined rage; just outside Shadow Moses, Liquid finally submitted to the virus. Presumably, his weakened physical condition was all that the virus needed to take hold.
His arm was transplanted to replace that of Ocelot's, who had lost his own during a fight, and his body was taken by the Patriots. Although Solid later used it to fake his own death, Big Mama and Liquid Ocelot were able to use it to replace the damaged body of his father, alongside that of Solidus. In the meantime, however, his ghost took the opportunity to possess the man who took his arm, attempting to get revenge still, until the arm was eventually replaced.
Canon Point: Liquid comes from after his death.
[Optional] Previous RP History: N/A
Personality: Liquid's personality is notably polar opposite to his brother. While Solid is stoic and level-headed, Liquid's temper is to be noted. Even when he seems calm, as he often does, there's a lot of rage hidden within and it isn't hard to set it off. He has low self-esteem but keeps it hidden behind an act of high arrogance and has a high standard to which he holds himself to. Compared to his brother, he is far more loud and energetic. Despite this, he has a notable formality in the way he speaks and he has a tendency to keep up a stoic attitude when outside of battle or when not incensed. He does have strong self-control and a high level of determination; he'd have to be determined to keep going after taking all that damage. Thanks to his time as a POW, he suffers from night-terrors and always sleeps lightly. He is extremely paranoid and dislikes being touched outside of battle. Thanks to his childhood, he also does not understand affection very well and he finds it hard to relax at the best of times.
Liquid is also extremely bitter and prone to long-winded rants when pressed. Although he's generally rather cold in attitude, he does have a softer side and dislikes seeing people used or taken advantage of unless it's to serve his own purposes. If you do manage to become someone he likes he will protect you with his life, though it's a slow and difficult process to get that close to him. Liquid does not trust anyone unless they work for him, and even then he's rather paranoid. Although he isn't openly afraid of anything, even going so far as to turn his back on a hostile enemy pointing a gun at him, he does react very, very badly to being restrained, even going temporarily insane and possibly homicidal if the restraints are collars or shackles. However, unless he actively hates you, he won't get himself injured trying to hurt you unless you're threatening him.
There are only two people that Liquid actively hates, or claims to at least; his brother, Solid Snake and his father, Big Boss, also known as Naked Snake. Things he hates, however, include disrespect, restraints, being called inferior, losing a battle, being manipulated, being ill, being unable to see the sun and carrots. He isn't very good with non-weapons-related technology such as computers; he tends to leave that to others rather than get irritated to the point of shooting the poor device. He also takes rather good care of his health outside of battle, refusing to drink unless it's a special occasion and never smoking or doing other things that might damage his health. However, he is one of the Snake siblings, so food gets him in a very good mood. Like his father and brother, he does have a love of boxes and finds them calming to sit inside.
Considering he's coming from after the point in which he loses, Liquid is likely to be a lot more temperamental and unstable. His ghost, in MGS2 (prior to being removed from the series due to the stolen arm being replaced) is shown to have become obsessed with taking down the Patriots, although he's clearly still determined to kill Snake. However, these scenes occured two and four years after his death. I would assume him to have been considerably shaken and angry over the fact that he'd lost - and bemused to find himself alive. He's stubborn enough to refuse to believe his memories are fake, and likely to react badly to any suggestion of it.
Appearance: 1 // 2 // 3 It's not clear in the images but he also wears dogtags - without the silencers. The only "weird" thing about his appearance is the tattoo he bears on his left arm.
Abilities: Liquid is known for several things. The most notable is his almost superhuman ability to not only survive things that would otherwise kill a man, such as falling off a giant robot, being shot multiple times with a machine gun, being in a helicopter crash and direct hits by missiles, but also to keep going after taking those hits. He is also an especially skilled pilot and a highly capable soldier having been trained and active as a soldier since his youth. Officially, he's considered a super-soldier, having superior soldier genes. Like his brother he has an IQ of 180 and is fluent in seven languages. Canon lists only five of those: English, Spanish, French, Malay, and Arabic, the last of which he was said to speak as if he was Arabic himself. The other two, in my headcanon, are Russian and Portuguese. He is remarkable resistant to extreme temperatures.
Items/Weapons: The FAMAS he wields canonically is... pretty much the only possession he has other than his clothes and his dogtags.
☣ Samples
First Person Sample:
[The video flickers on, unfocused static breaking the transmission, occasionally focusing in on a shirtless man with a cold expression on his face. He wastes no time in getting to the brink of things. His voice is harsh, the eloquent British tones offset by a bitter note.]
I refuse to accept this.
[The image is horrific quality, occasionally breaking out into "snow", twisting a little to distort the image.]
Someone here has to know the truth. If this is Hell, then so be it; I never expected anything else. But don't mock me with lies about my past. This place is unlike anywhere I've ever seen before.
[A slight pause. He brings his hand to his head, frowning.]
...things like this. It could be nanomachines, or VR. If anyone out there has a basic scientific knowledge in either of those fields, respond.
Third Person Sample:
So this was how it was.
Either this was Hell, he was in a coma under the Patriots or this was real. It certainly felt real. His body felt sluggish and out of sorts. His reflex time had been drastically reduced; he'd seen that much already. How far did this weakness extend? How long would it last? He wasn't certain. Surely VR didn't get to this level of realism.
But if it wasn't VR, that left the other two options.
Neither was something Liquid wanted to consider. The possibility of everything he knew being a lie... that was inconceivable. He was Liquid Snake. He was the leader - ex-leader, he was dead now - of FOXHOUND; not that much of FOXHOUND was left. had Ocelot been the only one left alive, and he wasn't even sure of that. He drew in a sigh, slumping back against the wall he was sitting against.
If they were right... if everything he knew was a lie... but no. He would not, could not accept that. Even if it would explain how he could have died. He knew he had. He'd felt the FOXDIE take hold, felt that agony strike through him. He felt a low growl of frustation rise up in his throat. Liquid knew he couldn't fight like this. Perhaps that was the most frustrating thing of all. There was nothing he could do to vent this burning rage deep inside of him. Nothing but let it build and churn. His fist struck into the wall, bringing only pain.
There was nothing he could do.
All he had the option to do was to wait, and hope this weakness went away with time. And if it didn't... then he'd sooner be lying there in the snow again. If it did - when it did - he'd be able to find out the truth. The Patriots wouldn't get away with this. He wouldn't allow it.
Character Name: Liquid Snake
Character Age: 33 years old (born in 1972)
Canon + Format: Metal Gear Solid (Video Game)
Background: The second of the three "sons of Big Boss", Liquid was cloned from Big Boss in 1972 as part of a secret government cloning program called Les Enfantes Terribles. He was one of eight clone babies created. Six of those babies never reached the stage of birth, sacrificed to help the two that survived, Liquid and Solid. Both clones were genetically modified, Liquid gaining the superior genes and Solid gaining the inferior. A later clone was also created, Solidus. Liquid's real name was classified to the point where even the highest ranks of the military do not know it, and he in fact denies having one, claiming that soldiers such as they don't have names.
Shortly after birth, Liquid was sent to the UK, raised there as a soldier-in-training. During his youth he was constantly treated poorly by his "father", emotionally abused and starved of love. As a result, he became considerably cold hearted, though less so in his youth than he would become later. Liquid was constantly referred to as "inferior", treated as worthless and became obsessed with proving his superiority to his father and brother. He also developed a false belief that his father had willingly undertaken the LET program and chose him to be inferior, due to his father's habit of referring to him as the inferior of the twins.
In 1990, at the age of 18, he joined the British SAS (Special Air Service), becoming the youngest person to serve there. Shortly afterwards he was assigned to an SAS unit in Iraq, sent to track down and destroy mobile SCUD missiles. This, however, was a cover; he was also working for the SIS as a sleeper agent. He was caught and imprisoned for four years as a POW, an event that helped shape his extreme levels of paranoia regarding imprisonment. Recent information gained does indicate that he was only a POW for a portion of the time before being brainwashed into terrorism. In 1994 he was rescued by the US government, though he never forgot. Five years later, in 1999, his father was killed by Solid Snake. Liquid developed a strong hatred for his brother following this incident, since he would never be able to get his revenge and prove himself by killing his father.
A year later, he joined FOXHOUND, his brother's unit. By that time Solid, then 28, had already retired despite his youth. Liquid became the field commander in his brother's absence. It was five years later that the next event of note in his life would occur.
In 2005 FOXHOUND was assigned to guard a nuclear disposal facility known as Shadow Moses, which doubled as a secret weapons development complex. Shadow Moses hosted a weapon known as a Metal Gear, a nuclear equiped bipedal giant robot that was considered to be the ultimate weapon. Under his command, the FOXHOUND Unit and the Genome Army took over the base, taking the world hostage under the threat of nuclear war. Their demands initially included the remains of his father, Big Boss, and a large amount of money. It was later discovered the money was to be used to cure the Genome Army, who had been genetically modified to become better soldiers but were dying from the modifications, indicating that Liquid was not entirely uncaring. Liquid's other intention was to recreate his father's dream, Outer Heaven, a military nation where soldiers would always have a place either on or off the battlefield. Solid Snake, his brother, was taken out of retirement and sent in to stop him. Unknown to either of them, at least at first, Solid had been infected with a deadly virus known as FOXDIE, which targetted specific genetic codes.
The terrorists had also taken into hostage two people of importance; the DARPA Chief Donald Anderson, one of the men involved in LET , and the president of ArmsTech, which had developed the Metal Gear, Kenneth Baker. Solid's orders were to retrieve them. Unfortunately for both Liquid and Solid, that plan was to fail dramatically. Revolver Ocelot, FOXHOUND's torture speciality, "accidentally" killed Anderson while trying to find out the startup codes for Metal Gear, one of which was held by each of the hostages. Their plan was not entirely lost, however. There was another method of starting up the weapon.
Prior to the game, Liquid poisoned Master Miller, the man who had trained Solid. Using the very basic disguise of wearing a shirt, tying his hair back and wearing sunglasses, he pretended to be Miller and guided the man throughout a good part of the game with the intent of leading him to his death. Decoy Octopus, another member of FOXHOUND disguised himself as Anderson to find out if Solid had any idea how to start up the Metal Gear, but was killed by a heart attack when FOXDIE activated. Soon after, Baker gave Solid a card, one of the three required to activate Metal Gear. In actuality it was three cards in one, but neither of the twins knew that at the time. Moments after, Baker also died from FOXDIE, alerting Liquid to the situation he had already been suspicious of.
As his brother worked his way through FOXHOUND towards him, Liquid continued to guide him, even after confronting him face to face several times. The first time they met in person was in battle; Liquid piloted his Hind-D to attack him, but was taken down by stinger missiles. Despite having no opportunity to use his parachute and escape, he not only survived but was able to return to the guise of Master Miller only moments later, leaving the parachute he failed to use as a marker for Solid to show he had survived. After Sniper Wolf captured his brother, Liquid mocked him with the knowledge of their sibling relationship, something Solid had been aware of, then left him to be tortured and imprisoned by Ocelot. At one point Liquid also tricked his brother into activating the Metal Gear with the Pal Card by staging a conversation as Liquid with Ocelot.
He also led his brother to be distracted with the treachery of the woman who developed FOXDIE, rather than paying attention to the other traitor in their ranks. It was only once his codec was traced back to Shadow Moses that he revealed himself as Liquid over the Codec that passed for a communications device. Soon afterwards, they met in person again.
Liquid explained the situation with FOXDIE to his brother, seeming entirely at ease despite the gun pointed at him and the factor of FOXDIE itself. He had come to the conclusion that FOXDIE was harmless to him, since their "genetic code" was identical. He also revealed that he had a spy in the Pentagon who had given him the information he needed. Following this talk he piloted Metal Gear REX in order to attack Solid, killing a former friend of Solid's in the process. However, the Metal Gear was defeated. Despite the explosion, he not only survived, but kept going. Solid had been knocked out by it, and he carried him up to the top of the ruined machine himself, despite his injuries. While his brother was unconscious, he made contact with the people behind FOXDIE - the Patriots - through Solid's nanomachines, threatening them.
Once his brother awoke, tied up and helpless, Liquid conversed with him a little longer, explaining his own views on the situation. He expressed his desire for soldiers such as them to have a purpose other than being used for political gambits, and noted that his brother had a darker side expressed only in battle. He also revealed the presence of Meryl Silverburgh, the daughter of one of Solid's friends, and the timed bomb on her back. The two fought once more, on top of Metal Gear, though Liquid once again lost. Despite his fall, as Snake and his friends attempted to escape, Liquid followed them, still determined to kill them and still able to fire. It was only FOXDIE that spared them his determined rage; just outside Shadow Moses, Liquid finally submitted to the virus. Presumably, his weakened physical condition was all that the virus needed to take hold.
His arm was transplanted to replace that of Ocelot's, who had lost his own during a fight, and his body was taken by the Patriots. Although Solid later used it to fake his own death, Big Mama and Liquid Ocelot were able to use it to replace the damaged body of his father, alongside that of Solidus. In the meantime, however, his ghost took the opportunity to possess the man who took his arm, attempting to get revenge still, until the arm was eventually replaced.
Canon Point: Liquid comes from after his death.
[Optional] Previous RP History: N/A
Personality: Liquid's personality is notably polar opposite to his brother. While Solid is stoic and level-headed, Liquid's temper is to be noted. Even when he seems calm, as he often does, there's a lot of rage hidden within and it isn't hard to set it off. He has low self-esteem but keeps it hidden behind an act of high arrogance and has a high standard to which he holds himself to. Compared to his brother, he is far more loud and energetic. Despite this, he has a notable formality in the way he speaks and he has a tendency to keep up a stoic attitude when outside of battle or when not incensed. He does have strong self-control and a high level of determination; he'd have to be determined to keep going after taking all that damage. Thanks to his time as a POW, he suffers from night-terrors and always sleeps lightly. He is extremely paranoid and dislikes being touched outside of battle. Thanks to his childhood, he also does not understand affection very well and he finds it hard to relax at the best of times.
Liquid is also extremely bitter and prone to long-winded rants when pressed. Although he's generally rather cold in attitude, he does have a softer side and dislikes seeing people used or taken advantage of unless it's to serve his own purposes. If you do manage to become someone he likes he will protect you with his life, though it's a slow and difficult process to get that close to him. Liquid does not trust anyone unless they work for him, and even then he's rather paranoid. Although he isn't openly afraid of anything, even going so far as to turn his back on a hostile enemy pointing a gun at him, he does react very, very badly to being restrained, even going temporarily insane and possibly homicidal if the restraints are collars or shackles. However, unless he actively hates you, he won't get himself injured trying to hurt you unless you're threatening him.
There are only two people that Liquid actively hates, or claims to at least; his brother, Solid Snake and his father, Big Boss, also known as Naked Snake. Things he hates, however, include disrespect, restraints, being called inferior, losing a battle, being manipulated, being ill, being unable to see the sun and carrots. He isn't very good with non-weapons-related technology such as computers; he tends to leave that to others rather than get irritated to the point of shooting the poor device. He also takes rather good care of his health outside of battle, refusing to drink unless it's a special occasion and never smoking or doing other things that might damage his health. However, he is one of the Snake siblings, so food gets him in a very good mood. Like his father and brother, he does have a love of boxes and finds them calming to sit inside.
Considering he's coming from after the point in which he loses, Liquid is likely to be a lot more temperamental and unstable. His ghost, in MGS2 (prior to being removed from the series due to the stolen arm being replaced) is shown to have become obsessed with taking down the Patriots, although he's clearly still determined to kill Snake. However, these scenes occured two and four years after his death. I would assume him to have been considerably shaken and angry over the fact that he'd lost - and bemused to find himself alive. He's stubborn enough to refuse to believe his memories are fake, and likely to react badly to any suggestion of it.
Appearance: 1 // 2 // 3 It's not clear in the images but he also wears dogtags - without the silencers. The only "weird" thing about his appearance is the tattoo he bears on his left arm.
Abilities: Liquid is known for several things. The most notable is his almost superhuman ability to not only survive things that would otherwise kill a man, such as falling off a giant robot, being shot multiple times with a machine gun, being in a helicopter crash and direct hits by missiles, but also to keep going after taking those hits. He is also an especially skilled pilot and a highly capable soldier having been trained and active as a soldier since his youth. Officially, he's considered a super-soldier, having superior soldier genes. Like his brother he has an IQ of 180 and is fluent in seven languages. Canon lists only five of those: English, Spanish, French, Malay, and Arabic, the last of which he was said to speak as if he was Arabic himself. The other two, in my headcanon, are Russian and Portuguese. He is remarkable resistant to extreme temperatures.
Items/Weapons: The FAMAS he wields canonically is... pretty much the only possession he has other than his clothes and his dogtags.
☣ Samples
First Person Sample:
[The video flickers on, unfocused static breaking the transmission, occasionally focusing in on a shirtless man with a cold expression on his face. He wastes no time in getting to the brink of things. His voice is harsh, the eloquent British tones offset by a bitter note.]
I refuse to accept this.
[The image is horrific quality, occasionally breaking out into "snow", twisting a little to distort the image.]
Someone here has to know the truth. If this is Hell, then so be it; I never expected anything else. But don't mock me with lies about my past. This place is unlike anywhere I've ever seen before.
[A slight pause. He brings his hand to his head, frowning.]
...things like this. It could be nanomachines, or VR. If anyone out there has a basic scientific knowledge in either of those fields, respond.
Third Person Sample:
So this was how it was.
Either this was Hell, he was in a coma under the Patriots or this was real. It certainly felt real. His body felt sluggish and out of sorts. His reflex time had been drastically reduced; he'd seen that much already. How far did this weakness extend? How long would it last? He wasn't certain. Surely VR didn't get to this level of realism.
But if it wasn't VR, that left the other two options.
Neither was something Liquid wanted to consider. The possibility of everything he knew being a lie... that was inconceivable. He was Liquid Snake. He was the leader - ex-leader, he was dead now - of FOXHOUND; not that much of FOXHOUND was left. had Ocelot been the only one left alive, and he wasn't even sure of that. He drew in a sigh, slumping back against the wall he was sitting against.
If they were right... if everything he knew was a lie... but no. He would not, could not accept that. Even if it would explain how he could have died. He knew he had. He'd felt the FOXDIE take hold, felt that agony strike through him. He felt a low growl of frustation rise up in his throat. Liquid knew he couldn't fight like this. Perhaps that was the most frustrating thing of all. There was nothing he could do to vent this burning rage deep inside of him. Nothing but let it build and churn. His fist struck into the wall, bringing only pain.
There was nothing he could do.
All he had the option to do was to wait, and hope this weakness went away with time. And if it didn't... then he'd sooner be lying there in the snow again. If it did - when it did - he'd be able to find out the truth. The Patriots wouldn't get away with this. He wouldn't allow it.