Nov 24, 2011 02:16
why the world should end in 2012,
freud probably has a theory on it,
why so cute?,
follow the yellow brick road,
rec: videos,
why the world shouldn't end in 2012,
character: caroline forbes,
i don't even anymore,
rec: fanfiction,
discussion: the vampire diaries,
character: stefan salvatore,
ship: stefan/caroline,
caroline forbes needs her own tag,
fandom: the vampire diaries,
what even is my life?,
what. even.
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On the one hand it was Stefan being Stefan the Hero but it was with Caroline and we'd never seen anything like it and just, most precious scene.
Y'know, I never even thought about that; technically it's such a normal Stefan scene because he does the hero thing so much, when Damon's gotten himself into everybody's bad books by some ill-thought out, ridiculous action. But somehow this was just different, I suppose because it felt so real for some reason. Not something that he usually does, or was doing because it's Elena's friend (even though it might have been both those things), there was just something personal about it.
, I think that's so interesting too, in some ways I think she's most self-aware of them all, and it's sad that she is when the perception of her for most of season wasn't that she had all these "flaws" that her friends or Matt especially, like "put up with". And that was like, so good of him to do, pay yourself on the back dude.
Oh my god, YES. It's like every conversation about Caroline is preceded by "YES, SHE HAS THESE FLAWS, BUT..." which, um, seriously, what is so severely wrong with her that every character feels like they have the right to condescend and be the bigger person anyway? And it's every character on the show; Damon, Elena, Bonnie, Stefan, Matt, whoever. I hated that part where Matt justifies to Tyler why he likes Caroline (that was another 'romantic' scene) and that too only after he'd seen Elena kissing Stefan or something like that. :@
This is why I thought Tyler/Caroline worked so well; because their relationship was an organic growth and he was the first person to say that Caroline was "awesome" and he couldn't seen how anyone would not fall for her, without qualifying his statement.
THE CHEMISTRY, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE, I'VE BEEN TOO BLIND TO NOTICE:
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But somehow this was just different, I suppose because it felt so real for some reason. Not something that he usually does, or was doing because it's Elena's friend (even though it might have been both those things), there was just something personal about it.
Mhmmm, no I agree, there was definitely something very intensely personal about it, which I think gave it so much of the wow factor, it just came out of nowhere and they had amazing chemistry and the interaction made so much sense but I also never would have imagined it so, yeah. One of my favourite scenes, I have to say, although the whole ep of Caroline turning was pretty wonderful.
Oh my god, YES. It's like every conversation about Caroline is preceded by "YES, SHE HAS THESE FLAWS, BUT..." which, um, seriously, what is so severely wrong with her that every character feels like they have the right to condescend and be the bigger person anyway?
UGH I KNOW. So many other characters have flaws, and some of them like a million times worse, but Caroline is the only one that it was constantly pointed out about, like what. (And it's always the same words too, like I have lost count of how many times various characters have referred to her as "neurotic", which seems a bit of a weird word to be everyone's first choice, I've always thought lol :S)
And oh god yeah, the ep where he's all telling Tyler there's nothing between him and Caroline when he thinks Elena's single again and then realizing not and then going off and deciding to be with Caroline but like, yeah, defending the fact that he likes her, um how about no.
ALSO YOUR TYLER/CAROLINE REASONS ARE EXACTLY MY SENTIMENTS AND WHY I SUPPORT TYLER > MATT, BECAUSE OH IDK, HE'S NOT ASHAMED OF LIKING HER AND SHE ISN'T MADE TO FEEL INSECURE, AND YEAH. /capsfest
Heee, it really has! I find it so funny I never made much of scenes like that one the first time around and then after season two it's like HOW DID I NOT FIND YOU ADORABLE BACK THEN. Also there was the whole saving-from-the-car scene I pretty much forgot about, lol.
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OMG, BUNNY HUNTING. I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT BUNNY HUNTING IF YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT. These two go bunny hunting together. COULD THEY BE ANY MORE PERFECT? And they have all the snark along with that, which just, GUH.
it just came out of nowhere and they had amazing chemistry and the interaction made so much sense but I also never would have imagined it so, yeah. One of my favourite scenes, I have to say, although the whole ep of Caroline turning was pretty wonderful.
It absolutely was; matched only by Daddy Issues which was incredible, and the last scene with Bonnie/Caroline/Elena and Stefan watching is my favorite scene in the entire show. That STEFAN thought of it, that he just didn't go and handle everything else that was going on-- his brother after Rose's death, Elena and John Gilbert, but actually came back to do this completely sweet, completely unexpected thing for her, I just. ♥
like I have lost count of how many times various characters have referred to her as "neurotic", which seems a bit of a weird word to be everyone's first choice, I've always thought lol
YOU MAKE AN EXCELLENT POINT. Seriously, I never thought about it; how many friends of yours have you called 'neurotic' on a regular basis anyway? Who even USES the word neurotic?
MATT, YOU SUCK, THE END. Although he isn't so bad with other characters, I don't mind him. It's just specifically him constantly putting Caroline down which gets to me.
AND TYLER AND CAROLINE BOTH HAVE AN EQUAL STATUS IN THEIR RELATIONSHIP. Which, FTW (or, if anything, Tyler's the one completely smitten by her, which is perfectly acceptable in my books).
I never made much of scenes like that one the first time around and then after season two it's like HOW DID I NOT FIND YOU ADORABLE BACK THEN. Also there was the whole saving-from-the-car scene I pretty much forgot about, lol.
OMG, I KNOW, RIGHT? Like, I don't even remember any of the scenes from the earlier gifs. I must've been watching with my eyes half-closed, avoiding anything that wasn't Damon/Elena D:
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That STEFAN thought of it, that he just didn't go and handle everything else that was going on-- his brother after Rose's death, Elena and John Gilbert, but actually came back to do this completely sweet, completely unexpected thing for her, I just. ♥
Oh god yes, this scene too, SO MUCH, for all of those reasons! He arranged a SLUMBER PARTY for her, like, how are you even real, who does that. Stefan, let me love you.
Seriously, I never thought about it; how many friends of yours have you called 'neurotic' on a regular basis anyway? Who even USES the word neurotic?
LOL ikr? Like if they were always calling her 'bitchy' or 'annoying', I mean, I would still have quite a problem with it but at least those are things people actually say about each other. Even TYLER says it like in season one or something, I think, before he becomes aware of her awesomeness, and it's like, lol, Tyler douchebag jock extraordinaire's word of choice is neurotic? Ah ha ha ha.
Mhmmm, yeah and that's the thing with Matt, he IS a decent guy so much of the time! I really, really liked him for a while. He can be nice and great and everything, but it's just with Caroline that it was so bad D: Which I guess is sort of a problem in itself, lol.
(or, if anything, Tyler's the one completely smitten by her, which is perfectly acceptable in my books).
AGREED. Although equal status is quite A+ too.
Hahahaha, seriously, it seems so far away! I have a cousin who might start watching the show soon and I told her I'd watch some of it with her and it's like, so crazy thinking about it, WE KNEW SO LITTLE IN SEASON ONE. DOPPLEGANGRS AND CURSES WERE NOT A THING. WEREWOLVES WERE NOT A THING. ORIGINALS WERE NOT A THING. THEY'D JUST BE LIKE "KLAUS WHO? DON'T KNOW THAT GUY LOL FUNNY NAME THOUGH".
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I KNOW, RIGHT? Till that moments they'd been decent friends, but it had been a whole lot more of Stefan helping her adjust because that's the kind of person her is. This? Was entirely for her. He didn't need to, and she'd already told him she was 'fine', and he could've accepted that, BUT HE IS FLAWLESS, SO OF COURSE HE DIDN'T. And "you don't have to pretend with me". KILL ME, YOU TWO, WHY DON'T YOU?
Even TYLER says it like in season one or something, I think, before he becomes aware of her awesomeness, and it's like, lol, Tyler douchebag jock extraordinaire's word of choice is neurotic? Ah ha ha ha.
I NEVER NOTICED THIS, BUT HAHAHAHAHA. Seriously, show, seriously? It's like Damon's favorite book is Gone With The Wind (or at least he likes it a lot). And REALLY? Someone who fought in the Civil War and likes the book? Because I would imagine all the inaccuracies and romanticization would really get to him. But, epic love story ahoy. Heh.
I have actually never seen any episode of this show twice, which, HOW? I don't even remember episode titles from the first season and there are times when I see gifs and wonder "BUT WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN", BUT ENJOY YOUR REWATCH. I have converted SO many people around me, it's not even funny. D:
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THIS SO MUCH. And the little look on Caroline's face when she seems at the door again, so confused because she said that she was okay and that took it all off him... but he came back anyyyyway. AND YES THAT LINE. AND THEIR FACES IN THE WHOLE THING. AND STEFAN OFFERING TO COME INSIDE WITH HER. Now I am so curious what he would have done if he'd gone inside. Sit down and talked? Cuddled it out? Helped her pick the darts out of her neck? (THAT SCENE D:) Just stayed there so she wasn't alone? Made her hot cocoa? WHO KNOWS.
And LOL so much at the Damon/Gone With the Wind thing, that is such a good point, and I never even thought of that, but... yeah. Wow, show, good one there. SMOOTH.
Ahaha, I think I've probably seen every episode twice just from getting various people into it and watching with them. Lol, I can maybe possibly recite all the episode titles because you know, I have THE MOST USEFUL INFORMATION stored up in my brain. Hee, thanks, I am very looking forward to it. AND I WILL ACTUALLY PAY ATTENTION TO STEFAN AND CAROLINE SCENES THIS TIME AROUND.
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Now I am so curious what he would have done if he'd gone inside. Sit down and talked? Cuddled it out? Helped her pick the darts out of her neck? (THAT SCENE D:) Just stayed there so she wasn't alone? Made her hot cocoa? WHO KNOWS.
OH MY GOD, HOW IS IT THAT I NEVER THOUGHT OF THIS BEFORE? HE OFFERED TO COME INSIDE. WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL? WHAT WAS HE PLANNING ON DOING? WHERE IS THE FIC. This obsession is making me realize the sad lack of S/C fic in fandom even though everyone agrees they're adorable. WHY FANDOM, WHY? D: But honestly, they would've been awkward in the beginning and then they'd have gotten completely comfortable, because that's how they are with each other.
THAT IS USEFUL KNOWLEDGE, OKAY, THESE THINGS ARE VERY CURRENT AFFAIRS LIKE AND IMPORTANT.
They'd have pretty babies (except they can't, so that, BUT YOU KNOW THEY WOULD). And her faaaaaaaace; the idea that someone could've been "worried" about her:
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IKR? HOW IS THERE NO "IF STEFAN HAD COME IN" FIC? I WANT IT SO BADLY. WHAT DOES HE MEEEEEAN. Gah, so true about the lack of fic, and it is so unfortunate, I am really wishing I had asked more people for Stefan/Caroline fic too now, rofl. Want mooooaar.
But honestly, they would've been awkward in the beginning and then they'd have gotten completely comfortable, because that's how they are with each other.
This so much, just, exactly. Like, like, awkward silences and Stefan trying to assess how okay she is and Caroline trying to act like she's okay and making light conversation and maybe fumblings in the kitchen for snacks or putting a movie on to distract themselves but not really getting into it but then just kinda settling into comfortable-ness and Caroline talking about it or just talking about how it'll be okay, they're going to be okay, or even then just talking about random ~things, idek, but all cute and comfortable and leaning on shoulders and aljdslhds.
OH GOSH, I WISH I COULD BE QUIZZED ON TVD KNOWLEDGE WEEKLY INSTEAD OF CURRENT AFFAIRS (journalism major, lol)
THEY SO WOULD. (And you know, on a related note, I have always wondered why no vampires in any vampire story ever think they could just like ADOPT if raising kids was such a thing they wanted so badly. I mean, weird situation for the kid, but STILL. IT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY.)
HER SMIIIIIIILE.
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COMPLETELY AGREE ON YO' VERSION OF THEIR INTERACTION. That IS how it would've gone down, along with a lot of TV watching with feet-on-the-table and then bitching about Damon, WHICH IS ALWAYS A+++++ And they'd probably hug awkwardly or something, which, omg, I want this on my screen yesterday DD:
I WANT ALL THE FIC, I HAVE OFFICIALLY LOST IT.
Hahahahaha, okay, now I SO NEED the Damon/Caroline/Stefan/Katherine!verse adopting a kid, heh. THAT ALSO NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
Okay, THIS, is exactly why I'm losing my head over them. SO. PERFECT. And they know each other so insanely well even in this short time:
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with a lot of TV watching with feet-on-the-table and then bitching about Damon, WHICH IS ALWAYS A+++++
ALWAYS A+++++ YES, AND TV WATCHING WITH FEET-ON-THE-TABLE AND AWKWARD HUGS omg it should be a crime that this does not exist, how about like an "alternate scene" eh CW, eh?
LOL, OH DEAR, WELL IF IT'S ANY CONSOLATION, I THINK I'VE LOST IT TOO AT THIS POINT
And aljdlsljsjldsjldsl dood YES, like Katherine just breezes into the house with a baby so Caroline has something to do 'cause she's been so boring and it's a drag, and they are like wtf WHERE DID THE BABY COME FROM and Katherine is like psht you don't want to know, trust me, and of course the baby is spitting up on the rugs and the couches and Damon keeps threatening to throw it out the window if Caroline can't keep it under control better and oh my god I can't even my mind is going crazy places with this
THAT. YES. And the way Stefan is looking at her, mhmmmmmmmmm, so onto you, although Caroline is so adorable in that scene, just munching away on her food without a care and teasing Stefan about having a friend, and her whole "Why are you so nice to me?" which, guh, she can't even get it, oh girl.
ALSO, OH HEY THERE, STEFAN/CAROLINE/DAMON AND JEALOUS!STEFAN MUCH:
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