[fic] the complete guide to insufficiency
So fluffyfrolicker is hosting the mortals shall bow; a multi fandom women comment ficathon and I AM BASICALLY MAKING EVERYONE WRITE ME RAVEN/BELLAMY FIC AS THEY SHOULD. And clearly I am surrounded by people I do not deserve, because they've actually done it to. PLZ READ ASAP.
upupa-epops: False Dichotomy, The 100, R. Raven/Bellamy(/Clarke), I pity the woman who will love ( Read more... )
NIHILISTIC, SELF-DESTRUCTIVE KIDS ARE MY FAVE OFC <3
YES. Which reminds me, Finn raging and being all angsty before he hooks up with Clarke actually intrigued me. Why is he so upset? Who does he have on the Ark? Why are they so important? WHAT IS THAT BOY'S STORY?
I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER THIS, THAT IS HOW MUCH RECALL VALUE FINN HAS FOR ME, but I assume it must have been because of Raven, though? (Don't remember anyone else Finn has on the Ark?) THAT sure didn't last long.
STEFAN/CAROLINE IS JUST YOU BETTER NOT BUILD ME UP, BUTTERCUP, JUST TO LET ME DOWN OKAY, SHOW, BECAUSE I WILL FIND YOU. AND I WILL DESTROY YOU. They need to have all the angsty dances (both literal and metaphorical) forever and ridiculous amounts of sex.
I cannot help myself. YOU ARE EVIL, YOU MADE ME DO ALL THIS.
I SEEK TO ACCEPT WHAT I CANNOT CHANGE. I HAVE DECIDED TO STOP BEING ASHAMED AND OWN MY EVIL.
SOBBING.
SOBBING RIGHT WITH YOU.
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IT IS TONY. KIDS ♥
I did suppose so, but clearly, since that didn't last long, it has me sort of intrigued as to what else it might be. More academically intrigued than anything else, not really many feelings involved, but okay, it still might be fun to find out.
AND HIM BEING SURPRISED THAT CLARKE TRUSTS BELLAMY? very uncalled for, sir. very. he's such a douche sometimes.
RIDICULOUS AMOUNTS OF SEX IS A FAIRLY GOOD DESCRIPTION OF WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT SEASON OR SO.
YOU ARE EVIL, STILL. ACCEPTING DOESN'T MAKE YOUR SINS LESS AWFUL.
ALSO i definitely like clarke and bellamy together more since all the scenes in the episode when they go search for guns and bring back guns and get bellamy pardoned ♥ my leadership kids!
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I think it must have been the Raven thing, because there's been no mention of anything else so far? I'm guessing they wanted it to be a 'he starts having feelings for Clarke despite himself and because the world has ended and it's about comfort and companionship' sort-of-thing, I just don't think it came across.
CLEARLY PAUL WES FEELS US ON THIS BECAUSE HE'S BEEN SAYING THE SAME TO ANYONE WHO WILL LISTEN.
ACCEPTING DOES MAKE MY EVIL FUNNER THOUGH. I AM NOW DARKEST!TIMELINE ZOE.
I enjoyed Clarke and Bellamy's gun-getting too, I enjoy their scenes fair enough, just don't ship them. Although I'm guessing Bellamy suddenly stopping in the middle and getting distracted by Clarke was a portention as to ~things to come in the narrative. Bob Morley's explicitly said that he isn't playing Bellamy as interested in Clarke (and he doesn't seem to want it to go that way, but then again, he's just the actor, I'm pretty sure he doesn't get a say.) But LeaderShip = yay!
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Also at some point in my life I'm going to actually want to watch a Korean drama, to check things out, and I'll need you to recommend me something.
I think it must have been the Raven thing, because there's been no mention of anything else so far? I'm guessing they wanted it to be a 'he starts having feelings for Clarke despite himself and because the world has ended and it's about comfort and companionship' sort-of-thing, I just don't think it came across.
I could agree. It definitely didn't come across.
CLEARLY PAUL WES FEELS US ON THIS BECAUSE HE'S BEEN SAYING THE SAME TO ANYONE WHO WILL LISTEN.
I KNOW. I THINK I READ SOMEWHERE THAT HE SAID HE THINKS THAT STEFAN SHOULD JUST MAN UP AND KISS CAROLINE. ADORABLE, ISN'T IT.
ACCEPTING DOES MAKE MY EVIL FUNNER THOUGH. I AM NOW DARKEST!TIMELINE ZOE
you should write me darkest-timeline!annie/darkest-timeline!jeff fic. just sayin.
I'm still not shipping it either, but those were SUCH lovely scenes. I liked them better than any before with those two. ♥
BELLAMY/CLARKE LEADERSHIP OBVIOUSLY, SUCH A GLORIOUS THING TO WATCH. HOW DARE FINN DOUBT THEM.
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PAUL WES HAS TALKED NOTHING BUT STEROLINE SHIPPAGE AND IT IS GLORIOUS TO ME. Although he's been talking about it since four seasons or some such, his standard answer to his preferences was always Caroline.
I wish I could, but even my evil doesn't match up to that hot evilness.
They were lovely scenes, I think they have a lot more too in the rest of the season. I think the show was kind of planning a Finn/Clarke thing, but everyone seems to have realized that that isn't feasible because, uh, everyone hates Finn. So yeah, I'm guessing Bellamy/Clarke, which the fandom is pretty loud and obnoxious about and hate!tweeting all the creators for, is a done deal. But if they kill off Raven, I'm def not watching more, I'm just not invested enough.
FINN DOUBTS EVERYTHING. He constantly expects Clarke to be a ~better ~person which is very lmao to me.
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When I'm ready, I'll come to you girls for advice and flailing.
I LOVE THAT HE'S SO FORWARD AND OPEN ABOUT HIS PREFERENCES ABOUT THE SHOW, AND I LOVE THAT HE'S ROOTING FOR STEFAN/CAROLINE ♥
it does it does
They will not kill off Raven. HAVE TO KEEP POSITIVE, ZOE.
He constantly expects Clarke to be a ~better ~person which is very lmao to me.
SUCH A BORING NARRATIVE CHOICE, imho.
(revenge sex, though. ALWAYS A GOOD NARRATIVE CHOICE.)
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YES, COME TO US. Our flailing has transcended this realm and reached the stratosphere with how much shrieking we've done, truth.
HE HAS BEEN THAT WAY SINCE FOREVER. And now he's getting a chance to go on about it, since everyone asks about this angle now and he's positively gleeful. Heh.
I AM TRYING TO KEEP POSITIVE *bites nails*
SUCH A BORING NARRATIVE CHOICE, imho.
I KNOW. LIKE, IT'S GENUINELY HARD TO LIKE CHARACTERS WHO CONSTANTLY WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO BE ~BETTER ~PEOPLE. Like, it's not wrong to want it, but he's so self-righteous about it, I cannot.
WAIT, WHAT REVENGE SEX? DID YOU MOVE THAT QUICKLY FROM EPISODE 8? NEED MORE CAPS BECAUSE MY FEELINGS CANNOT BE CONTAINED.
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YES, COME TO US. Our flailing has transcended this realm and reached the stratosphere with how much shrieking we've done, truth.
I WILL, I WILL.
And now he's getting a chance to go on about it, since everyone asks about this angle now and he's positively gleeful. Heh.
IT'S ALL V. ADORABLE, PAUL WES IS FLAWLESS, ETC, ETC.
+ SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS IS ALSO USUALLY TERRIBLE. I DO LOVE IT WHEN PEOPLE ACTUALLY GET CALLED ON IT, THAT'S FUN.
+ NO I HAVEN'T, JUST SPYING ON YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH MARTA, REMEMBER. I'M TAKING A BREAK BECAUSE I NEEDED TO WATCH GAME OF THRONES 4x09 BECAUSE IT'S SUPPOSEDLY ALL ACTION AND THINGS HAPPENING. I NEED TO SEE TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE I LOVE SURVIVES.
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YEAH, like self-righteousness is a good enough character-trait, but it is so often mistaken for ~goodness in fiction to give a character the moral high-ground that it becomes annoying.
GOOD TO KNOW, I WANT A LOT MORE SQUEEING AT THAT POINT. MARTA AND I HAVE BEEN SCREAMING VERY LOUDLY YES. BUT DUDE, I HAVEN'T SEEN S4 OF GOT AT ALL AND NOW I'M FAIRLY SURE THREE-FOURTH MY FAVORITES MUST HAVE BEEN DISMEMBERED, MURDERED, BURIED (IF) AND FORGOTTEN BY NOW. DAMMIT, GRRM.
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I FEEL THE SAME WAY.
YEAH, like self-righteousness is a good enough character-trait, but it is so often mistaken for ~goodness in fiction to give a character the moral high-ground that it becomes annoying.
and THAT is when it becomes a problem. ESPECIALLY if the show's allowing the characters to pass off their self-righteousness as a moral highground and not just them being the dicks that they are.
I'm in love with how (at least the way I'm reading it) the show's not framing either Clarke or Bellamy as someone who is eternally right and the other eternally wrong. I get the feel that they're both very quick to accuse the other of being terrible, which is cute, and also that they're both very quick to learn from the other and admit their mistakes, and seek the other when they need help with something.
WELL, I CHOOSE NOT TO SPOIL ANYTHING FOR YOU, SO YOU CAN SUFFER. BUT YOU REALLY DO HAVE TO WATCH IT AT SOME POINT /nods convincingly
I DEFINITELY PLAN TO BINGE WATCH 1x09-1x12 tomorrow and I SHALL SCREAM AT BOTH OF YOU ♥
AND THEN THE FINALE. MY BODY IS NOT READY.
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Yeah, the show's definitely not framing Clarke and Bellamy that way. And I think partially it has to do with the fact that Bellamy isn't The Bad Guy per se? Like Damon, beginning TVD was definitely the bad guy; he abused and killed with impunity, for kicks, and that's pretty bad? So him entering the core circle means that everyone (like Caroline) has to kind of deal with him, even though they shouldn't have to. But Bellamy really hasn't done anything ~awful per se. He isn't even a ~bad person. He and Clarke are right and/or wrong in equal measures, which is pretty great.
I KNOW I'M GOING TO SUFFER HORRIBLY WHEN I MARATHON IT. WHICH IS WHY I DIDN'T IN THE MIDDLE OF MY EXAMS, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT MY SOUL DESTROYED WHEN I'M SUPPOSED TO BE STUDYING.
I AM NOT READY FOR THE FINALE EITHER OMGGGG.
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+ He and Clarke are right and/or wrong in equal measures, which is pretty great.
and that creates SUCH a wonderful dynamic. for me as a viewer it's fun because, well, I never know which one of them's going to turn out to be right in the end, which is fun, and I always like it when I can't predict everything going on on TV and it's v. realistic and just makes for a more fun and intense dynamic than person A just being right all the time and person B never being right, and being called out on it constantly. Balance of power for the win, and all that jazz.
+ NO ONE IS READY. IT'S THE GAME OF THRONES, WE'll EITHER WIN OR WE'LL DIE, ZOE. AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ACTUALLY A WAY TO WIN.
+ I'm contemplating reading the a song of ice and fire books. they might be fun.
+ ARYA STARK ♥
+ Only 5 more episodes of the 100 left for me to watch :(
ETA: OCTAVIA JUST ROLLED OVER HER GROUNDER PUPPY BOY SO SHE COULD BE ON TOP. IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.
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+ it's true, it's true later on as well, often because there is no right. because it's mostly about survival, instead of morality, it's possible that every particular situation is a case of a rock and a hard place, and it becomes impossible to ~objectively tell which option is right or would be the better one. so i enjoy that dynamic, and i like to see them clash too.
+ I KNOW IT. AS OF NOW ONLY THE END OF EPISODE TWO HAS HAPPENED (I'm on 5) BUT CAN'T IMAGINE ANYONE IS TOO TORN UP ABOUT THAT. The books much def be fun yes, everyone keeps saying it, and the book readers always feel vastly superior to the watching public like "oh you sweet summer peasants, you don't even know what's to come."
+ ARYA STARK + HEARTS IS ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA.
+ LOL, yesss, that Linctavia scene was pretty long and obv our bb girl is beautiful half-naked and OCTAVIA ON TOP FTW.
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+ YES. I HOPE THAT NEVER CHANGES AND I HOPE THEY CLASH FOREVER. guh, I think I've started developing bellamy/clarke feels. ALL THE LEADERSHIPPINES AND OCCASIONAL LINGERING STARES.
+ no one was too torn up about that, INDEED.
+ Arya Stark is always my fave.
+ I AM WATCHING EP 11 NOW. RAVEN IS SUCH A GLORIOUS MESS. AND OH, BELLAMY CONVINCING HER TO STAY. THAT'S MY BOY. OH MY GOD THEY'RE IN A TENT TOGETHER NOW.
YOU'RE MISTAKING ME FOR SOMEONE WHO CARES. AND SHE JUST STARTS UNDRESSING.AND HE LOOKS AT HER WHILE SHE UNDRESSES. TAKE OFF YOUR CLOTHES, SHE COMMANDS. SHE'S A SOLDIER, THAT'S WHAT SHE DOES. FINE, I'LL GO FIRST. I'M NOT THAT GUY. GOOD. THIS IS BEAUTIFUL, ZOE. BEAUTIFUL.
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+ There's no point shipping anything GOT because everyone you love is separated after 0.37 seconds. Like.
+ OMG YOU HAVE REACHED. SHE IS A GLORIOUS MESS. Aren't you just a janitor, and he's all "you're a pain in the ass but you're smart" and she's so surprised, like Raaaaaaaven, DO YOU NOT KNOW HOW AMAZING YOU ARE.
THE WHOLE THING WAS BEAUTIFUL AND HEARTBREAKING AND I CANNOT WITH THEIR FACES. HER I'M-SO-TOUGH FACE, AND HIS THIS-IS-ME-NOT-CARING FACE, AND THEY'RE CIRCLING EACH OTHER AND IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING, OF COURSE IT DOESN'T.
Did that help?
No.
I. CANNOT. EVEN. WITH. THEM. OKAY.
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NO POINT IN SHIPPING IN GOT, TRUE. BUT ARYA/GENRY AND SANSA/SHAE AND TYRION/SANSA AND TYRION/SHAE AND CERSEI/JAIME AND JAIME/BRIENNE AND YGRITTE/JON SNOW. I STILL SHIP IT ALL.
AND THE SEX SCENE WAS SO HOT. AND THE AFTERMATH? OH, THE AFTERMATH. RAVEN ALL COLLECTED, WELL, MORE COLLECTED THAN HIM, AND SHE'S OUT OF THERE SO SOON AND HE'S LEFT THERE LYING AND GUH. THESE TWO.
STARTING 1x12 NOW.
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