You’ve written eight fics? DUDE THAT’S FUCKING AWESOME. I am now extremely grateful to this movie that I haven’t even seen because it’s gotten your ficish juices flowing. YES. Your fic is my favourite thing, ect. ect. Now I’m going to go read it.
I will also tentatively mention that I agree with your above rant, though I can’t be sure because obvs. I’m yet to see the film. However, just dubbing a character as Not Feminist Enough is more often than not problematic. The movie is a legit bit of fanservice (that’s what fans paid for so ofc. it’s right that it should be), and I can understand the frustration of somebody invested in the character of Veronica but not in the movie’s OTP, but still, uhhhhmmm… declaring a character is antifeminist because she threw her career away for a boy is just, NO. Shut up.
OMG HAI, IT'S YOUUUUUyoucallitwinterMarch 25 2014, 17:24:05 UTC
DUDE, I HAVE WELL AND TRULY LOST IT. Like, I legit wrote some total 20,000 words in total and I don't even know what is wrong with me. YOU ARE MUCH TOO KIND ETC.
Yesss, the Not Feminist Enough thing really got to me. Also, because there's a lot of issues where you can talk about the failure of vmars in feminist terms (Madison Sinclair's arc definitely) but to say that the antifeminist part is exactly what makes Veronica Veronica? Like, I think reading it through an OTP-lens or anti-OTP-lens like this person does is limited because OTP aside, I don't see how someone can be invested in Veronica's character and then not see that the whole plot is centered around her character, and who she is, boy or no boy. I can understand feeling protective of a favorite like "nooooo, get out of this hell-hole and build a good life" as people who love her, like Keith, are bound to feel, but to term that 'feminism' seems a bit much
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Re: OMG HAI, IT'S YOUUUUUyoucallitwinterMarch 25 2014, 18:55:49 UTC
Haha, you should def not envy that considering I did it at the expense of eating, and sleeping and my education :P
I get what you mean, and tbh I ship Veronica/Logan hardcore, so it's not like I'm unbiased there AT ALL. There are some ships where I can be all 'live and let live' but Logan and Veronica (individually and together) are not those characters or that ship, I always have a need to go; NO THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE WRONG.
But, idk, maybe it's that I def don't think the shipping was any reason for deterioration (like, they were barely together at all in S2 and the original ending planned for the show if it got cancelled after S2 was Veronica going for Duncan at the end, and the show was working along those lines.) I can understand feeling like Logan's a burden or holding Veronica back etc., what got me riled was the idea that it makes Veronica less of a feminist icon because she chose the wrong guy and gave up her life or whatever. And, in the matter of what you said about people wanting something for their faves, I'm so
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Re: OMG HAI, IT'S YOUUUUUyoucallitwinterMarch 25 2014, 23:05:05 UTC
(Also, I am not on Ep 10 of S5 of TGW and I have never shipped Will/Alicia harder in my life than I do now. I have, in fact, never shipped them before now and their S5 is killing me with shippy feelings. Let's face it, I'm screwed up.)
I will also tentatively mention that I agree with your above rant, though I can’t be sure because obvs. I’m yet to see the film. However, just dubbing a character as Not Feminist Enough is more often than not problematic. The movie is a legit bit of fanservice (that’s what fans paid for so ofc. it’s right that it should be), and I can understand the frustration of somebody invested in the character of Veronica but not in the movie’s OTP, but still, uhhhhmmm… declaring a character is antifeminist because she threw her career away for a boy is just, NO. Shut up.
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Yesss, the Not Feminist Enough thing really got to me. Also, because there's a lot of issues where you can talk about the failure of vmars in feminist terms (Madison Sinclair's arc definitely) but to say that the antifeminist part is exactly what makes Veronica Veronica? Like, I think reading it through an OTP-lens or anti-OTP-lens like this person does is limited because OTP aside, I don't see how someone can be invested in Veronica's character and then not see that the whole plot is centered around her character, and who she is, boy or no boy. I can understand feeling protective of a favorite like "nooooo, get out of this hell-hole and build a good life" as people who love her, like Keith, are bound to feel, but to term that 'feminism' seems a bit much ( ... )
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I get what you mean, and tbh I ship Veronica/Logan hardcore, so it's not like I'm unbiased there AT ALL. There are some ships where I can be all 'live and let live' but Logan and Veronica (individually and together) are not those characters or that ship, I always have a need to go; NO THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE WRONG.
But, idk, maybe it's that I def don't think the shipping was any reason for deterioration (like, they were barely together at all in S2 and the original ending planned for the show if it got cancelled after S2 was Veronica going for Duncan at the end, and the show was working along those lines.) I can understand feeling like Logan's a burden or holding Veronica back etc., what got me riled was the idea that it makes Veronica less of a feminist icon because she chose the wrong guy and gave up her life or whatever. And, in the matter of what you said about people wanting something for their faves, I'm so ( ... )
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