Allelujah Haptism is expressing inappropriate feelings towards someone who is already involved in a relationship. In this situation, how should I neutralize the target without the use of lethal force? Lockon took my gun.
Okay, here. Private if you want. I don't care.bananas_anAugust 20 2008, 16:33:40 UTC
That was an entirely different situation. Can you go a single day without having to involve yourself in conversations that don't concern you?
Haine is not the one I am worried about protecting. Badou is.
No, it was not. You gave horrible advice, brought the dog out, made Haine crazy and unsure, drove him away and in the process drove Badou mad with worry. Badou forgave you then, but how long will he continue to do so if you keep making the same mistake. YES. MISTAKE.
It's obvious you don't care about anyone else except your friends. You constantly screw with their special people because you don't care how your friends feel about anyone else other than you, even though they have told you again and again that these people matter to them.
You will never be a true friend until you realize that you aren't the only person in the equation and attempt to see things from other people's points of view.
I'm concerned about Badou. Like you, I don't think it's time for Haine to run after him. However, from what he said, Badou isn't himself. It might be a good idea to at least find out where he is. Haine is Badou's best friend--not you, not me. Haine. If anyone knows when things aren't right with Badou and what's best for him, it's him, not either of us.
You brought my name into it. I had every right to comment after that.
Funny, I don't care, eitheryou_are_unfitAugust 20 2008, 22:38:44 UTC
How can you claim to understand the situation when your ignorance is so clear? Badou left for a brief period of time, on his own, for his own purposes. Everyone is making huge fuss of it, and even though the fact that he disabled comments is a little strange, there is no other proof that anything is wrong. There is a number of reasons he could have done that; he was going somewhere where his internet availability was limited, or he simply did not feel like he wanted to deal with other people.
Haine, out of everyone, is taking it the too personally. He is letting his own selfish desire to be with Badou cloud his own decisions. Does he not trust Badou to keep his word? He did promise to return and assist with their jobs, and he is fully entitled to spending time on his own if he needs it.
I won't even bother addressing the assumptions you've made against me. Your opinion doesn't matter enough to correct it.
Re: Funny, I don't care, eithercollaredstrayAugust 20 2008, 22:55:26 UTC
You don't understand the situation either, Tieria. I do. There is something wrong.
I'm not taking it personally, he left partly because of me, and I want to be with him because I want to help him. Part of it is selfish, I will admit, but I just want him to be fucking happy, and he's not in a healthy place, he can't just sit there and wallow...it's not good for him.
I do not have the clearence to know the details, so I can only work with what I am given.
I don't understand why "wallowing" would be considered bad. It is spending time away from others and dealing with your weakness where they cannot see; I can understand that point of view, so I can't help but argue in favor of his privacy.
But he promised you. Has he communicated with you at all? Even something as simple as saying he would not be able to assist with the jobs.
I know. And because you don't know all the details, please don't make judgments.
...what makes me say that is...if the situation were reversed, and it were me, he wouldn't let me do this. I don't know what I'm supposed to do, because he asked me not to find him, but I know that this isn't good for him, and I know that he would look for me.
No. I've called him. But not until after I'd done all the jobs by myself. He won't talk to me.
What else am I supposed to do? I cannot just let the situation go, not when it concerns people who matter to me.
Perhaps you should establish a deadline. If he has not made contact with you by a specific time, you will go after him. And if you can, notify him of it. I would still advise against seeking him out until he has made mention that he wishes to be spoken to, but it seems that you will act regardless.
He won't talk to you as in answer the phone, or he will hang up on you? Have you left voice messages?
But how can you make definitive judgments when you KNOW that you don't know the whole story? What sense does that make?
Mmm. Maybe.
Both. Sometimes he answers and hangs up on me, sometimes he just doesn't answer. When he does answer he asks if there's an emergency and then hangs up. I've left voice messages.
I see. That is odd behavior for him, but from addition data I have acquired, would it be correct to assume that this was caused by the fact that Squalo Superbi abandoned him?
Re: Funny, I don't care, eitherbananas_anAugust 20 2008, 23:13:20 UTC
Because I can read threads even if I choose not to mention them. He was not himself.
Haine trusts Badou. He also knows him well enough to know when to be worried about him. Worrying about someone doesn't make you selfish. If Lockon took off like that, horribly emotionally upset, would you worry about him?
I want to make it crystal clear that you need to watch what you say to Haine. If his dog comes out again because you messed with him, there will be hell to pay, and not just from me.
Until you prove me wrong through your actions, I say they're facts. If you or anyone else had made the same sort of errors--innocent though I believe they were--in a battle situation, you'd be talking about "punishment." I don't believe in punishing people when they don't know any better. I do expect them to learn.
So he left because of Squalo Superbi abandoned him. Have you ever experienced such a feeling, Tachibana An? Of complete abandonment? In your sheltered civilian life, I highly doubt it. If that is the case, then he will need Haine at some point, but not yet. Let him keep what pride he has left.
I watch my words for no one, though Haine has been an exception. But I will not lie to him, or try and pacify him with false hope. What is the point in sharing my opinion if it isn't mine at all?
I will if I want to. You're certainly free with saying whatever you want. I'm giving you a frame of reference since you have difficulty understanding the feelings involved.
Yes. And it wasn't any of my business, nor yours. His post made me uneasy, so I looked around to see what may have happened. I wish I hadn't seen it. I'm sure he'd prefer that.
^_^ You'd be wrong. You have no idea of the things that have happened and are still happening in my life. If you'd bothered to read my first comment, you'd have seen that I agree with you. Badou needs time. However, I'm also concerned enough that I think we need to know where he is.
That's fine. Why are you so put out when people speak their minds with you then? No one asked you to lie. There are times when your opinions should be kept to themselves. You can also get your point across without being cruel or raising false hope.
Trust me. I do believe it. I don't think you're a bad person, Tieria-san, and I know you mean well. We're both very protective of people. That's probably why we do this over and over.
Re: Okay, here. Private if you want. I don't care.bananas_anAugust 20 2008, 23:20:11 UTC
Dammit. It's hard to ignore notifications if we'd stayed in your journal. I didn't feel comfortable privating something in Tieria's. I thought he would do that if he chose to continue, but I was wrong.
I know he doesn't mean harm. That doesn't mean that he causes it again and again, and not just with you two.
Re: Okay, here. Private if you want. I don't care.bananas_anAugust 20 2008, 23:27:29 UTC
Well, hell. I moved it so you wouldn't have to deal with people fighting in your journal when other stuff is more important.
I'll shut up. I know I have a short fuse with him even though I do try. It's just...who the hell is he to tell you you aren't good enough? WTF? That's the same crap he pulled with Tsuzuki. And it's not true.
Haine is not the one I am worried about protecting. Badou is.
No, it was not. You gave horrible advice, brought the dog out, made Haine crazy and unsure, drove him away and in the process drove Badou mad with worry. Badou forgave you then, but how long will he continue to do so if you keep making the same mistake. YES. MISTAKE.
It's obvious you don't care about anyone else except your friends. You constantly screw with their special people because you don't care how your friends feel about anyone else other than you, even though they have told you again and again that these people matter to them.
You will never be a true friend until you realize that you aren't the only person in the equation and attempt to see things from other people's points of view.
I'm concerned about Badou. Like you, I don't think it's time for Haine to run after him. However, from what he said, Badou isn't himself. It might be a good idea to at least find out where he is. Haine is Badou's best friend--not you, not me. Haine. If anyone knows when things aren't right with Badou and what's best for him, it's him, not either of us.
You brought my name into it. I had every right to comment after that.
Reply
Haine, out of everyone, is taking it the too personally. He is letting his own selfish desire to be with Badou cloud his own decisions. Does he not trust Badou to keep his word? He did promise to return and assist with their jobs, and he is fully entitled to spending time on his own if he needs it.
I won't even bother addressing the assumptions you've made against me. Your opinion doesn't matter enough to correct it.
Reply
I'm not taking it personally, he left partly because of me, and I want to be with him because I want to help him. Part of it is selfish, I will admit, but I just want him to be fucking happy, and he's not in a healthy place, he can't just sit there and wallow...it's not good for him.
He missed all our jobs. I did them all myself.
Reply
I don't understand why "wallowing" would be considered bad. It is spending time away from others and dealing with your weakness where they cannot see; I can understand that point of view, so I can't help but argue in favor of his privacy.
But he promised you. Has he communicated with you at all? Even something as simple as saying he would not be able to assist with the jobs.
Reply
...what makes me say that is...if the situation were reversed, and it were me, he wouldn't let me do this. I don't know what I'm supposed to do, because he asked me not to find him, but I know that this isn't good for him, and I know that he would look for me.
No. I've called him. But not until after I'd done all the jobs by myself. He won't talk to me.
Reply
Perhaps you should establish a deadline. If he has not made contact with you by a specific time, you will go after him. And if you can, notify him of it. I would still advise against seeking him out until he has made mention that he wishes to be spoken to, but it seems that you will act regardless.
He won't talk to you as in answer the phone, or he will hang up on you? Have you left voice messages?
Reply
Mmm. Maybe.
Both. Sometimes he answers and hangs up on me, sometimes he just doesn't answer. When he does answer he asks if there's an emergency and then hangs up. I've left voice messages.
Reply
I see. That is odd behavior for him, but from addition data I have acquired, would it be correct to assume that this was caused by the fact that Squalo Superbi abandoned him?
Reply
Ah. Yes.
Reply
Haine trusts Badou. He also knows him well enough to know when to be worried about him. Worrying about someone doesn't make you selfish. If Lockon took off like that, horribly emotionally upset, would you worry about him?
I want to make it crystal clear that you need to watch what you say to Haine. If his dog comes out again because you messed with him, there will be hell to pay, and not just from me.
Until you prove me wrong through your actions, I say they're facts. If you or anyone else had made the same sort of errors--innocent though I believe they were--in a battle situation, you'd be talking about "punishment." I don't believe in punishing people when they don't know any better. I do expect them to learn.
Reply
So he left because of Squalo Superbi abandoned him. Have you ever experienced such a feeling, Tachibana An? Of complete abandonment? In your sheltered civilian life, I highly doubt it. If that is the case, then he will need Haine at some point, but not yet. Let him keep what pride he has left.
I watch my words for no one, though Haine has been an exception. But I will not lie to him, or try and pacify him with false hope. What is the point in sharing my opinion if it isn't mine at all?
If that is what you want to believe, fine.
Reply
Yes. And it wasn't any of my business, nor yours. His post made me uneasy, so I looked around to see what may have happened. I wish I hadn't seen it. I'm sure he'd prefer that.
^_^ You'd be wrong. You have no idea of the things that have happened and are still happening in my life. If you'd bothered to read my first comment, you'd have seen that I agree with you. Badou needs time. However, I'm also concerned enough that I think we need to know where he is.
That's fine. Why are you so put out when people speak their minds with you then? No one asked you to lie. There are times when your opinions should be kept to themselves. You can also get your point across without being cruel or raising false hope.
Trust me. I do believe it. I don't think you're a bad person, Tieria-san, and I know you mean well. We're both very protective of people. That's probably why we do this over and over.
Reply
This isn't the same thing, and Tieria is my friend too. He doesn't fully understand the situation, but I don't think he means any harm.
Reply
I know he doesn't mean harm. That doesn't mean that he causes it again and again, and not just with you two.
Reply
Mm.
Reply
I'll shut up. I know I have a short fuse with him even though I do try. It's just...who the hell is he to tell you you aren't good enough? WTF? That's the same crap he pulled with Tsuzuki. And it's not true.
Reply
Leave a comment