[Camarilla] The time has come

[yokaze]

I have been a part of the local Camarilla since September 2006.  In that time, I have observed the steady, inexorable decline of membership.  Simply uttering the word "Camarilla" is enough to convince the vast majority of local gamers to stay home or find something else to do.

When you really look at it, it's easy to see why.

The Camarilla is

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[yokaze]

I appreciate how effectively you are playing the devil's advocate here.

The bottom line is this.

Cam benefits:

A fascinating global setting.
The ability to travel to other places and still remain in the same continuity.
Networking with gamers from around the world.

Cam drawbacks:

Harsh restrictions to local STs which severely stunts creativity.
Plodding bureaucracy which frustrates members constantly.
Hundreds of pages of new rules, most of which revolve around what you -can't- do.
A reputation in Sonoma, regardless of whether it is deserved or not, that causes 95% of local gamers to avoid it like a hooker with a rash.

Here in Sonoma County, we have a lot of gamers. With the exception of a very small number, none of those gamers are interested in the global game, or with interacting with any of the storylines or characters outside the Domain.

We are stuck with all the drawbacks of the Camarilla, and nearly nobody cares to take advantages of the benefits. The very idea that we should hold to an organizations that offers us no benefit and many drawbacks makes no logical sense.

[kaoticrequiem]

"We are stuck with all the drawbacks of the Camarilla, and nearly nobody cares to take advantages of the benefits. The very idea that we should hold to an organizations that offers us no benefit and many drawbacks makes no logical sense."

"Cam benefits:

A fascinating global setting.
The ability to travel to other places and still remain in the same continuity.
Networking with gamers from around the world. "

Don't say no benefits when you've pointed out benefits.

Especially when some members do actively participate in the global game. Hi Roo, Martin, and Brian. How are you guys?

Wait. To get to Roo's point, Brian actually has no idea that you're posting this, as he's not on LJ. Also, I'm pretty sure you didn't post this to the UnSun list, so it seems like you're not talking to the domain, only to the people who can read you.

Don't try to take this game away from people who want it here, especially when you're not going to include them in the discussion.

[yokaze]

This is not the end-all discussion. These are my thoughts on the matter. Yes, they will be brought before others as well, once I have solidified my argument. This LJ has been exceptionally helpful for that.

Additionally, I have no power to take anything away from anyone. All I can do is voice my opinion.

[demonix99]

Its a livejournal. He can post this where he wants. And if this transforms into a more active debate and discussion over the area. I'd rather the reasons be codified in a format like this first.

Don't try and make this into a 'us v them' debate. because we all DO want to see what is best for the games and players.

We are all on the same side. We want a good game. But if you are so sure that WE can solve the problem, maybe you can tell us all why the numbers for the troupe games are souring. While the games like Requiem and Changeling struggle. And Mortals and Werewolves die out before they can grow?