The Contradictions of Suzumiya Haruhi

[yare_yare]

So, someone sent me an email the other day (yesterday, actually), which wound up prompting this essay. The essence of it queried me about Kyon's take on Haruhi, and after a reply with them, I wound up waking up in the middle of the night and saying "...You know, that would make a great essay." What we have here is the result of that, and probably a

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[yare_yare]

You said it in the nicest way possible, I just simplified it to base facts without all the niceness. And hey, it gave me something to do during insomnia, so nothing wrong with that.

[death_2_parrots]

Can't say I know your canon, I wandered over because I'm something of an essay whore myself. But something's not sitting right with me on this. If you're not nice, then hey, no need for me to be either.

Essaying is awesome really. But you're saying that if someone takes the time to concrit you nicely and in private, you're going to put their name up in lights, link to it from CFO and misquote them without context. (and simplifying it to base facts without all the niceness IS in essence misquoting, whether you intended to or not, you made your critter look bad for doing something we all ask for). I'm just another player, but this isn't exactly kosher. It's discouraging people from talking to you and giving you something to do during insomnia.

[yare_yare]

I know what you're saying there, I really do. And that's perfectly fine what you're saying, and I'll quote what I said in the message below this:

Well, I always go by the policy of treating things the way I would expect people to treat me doing the same thing, so maybe it just comes down to personal takes on things. I'd be happy to show everyone the email if they want, it's not that big a deal. If I were to send something like that, regardless of how nice I worded it, I would admittedly be surprised if they didn't mention me by name if they know me, even vaguely.

In other words, no real intent was there, simply supplying a vague context for my seemingly random essaying. As for simplification of things... it's how I analyse things. When it comes down to it, the niceness winds up ignored because while it's nice... it doesn't actually supply anything to the argument, and at the base of things, virtually everything's an argument. Getting down to what the person's saying is more important than how nicely they say it, I think.

[twincestlol]

Uh, yeah. Just basically dittoing what Nishi said. Essaying in response to crit is perfectly fine. But throwing in names for anyone to see -- especially when the critter has gone out of their way to keep their crit out of the public eye and has been polite -- isn't really acceptable in my opinion.

[yare_yare]

Well, I always go by the policy of treating things the way I would expect people to treat me doing the same thing, so maybe it just comes down to personal takes on things. I'd be happy to show everyone the email if they want, it's not that big a deal. If I were to send something like that, regardless of how nice I worded it, I would admittedly be surprised if they didn't mention me by name if they know me, even vaguely.

[homphgomph]

I'd be happy to show everyone the email if they want, it's not that big a deal.

Generally speaking, when someone e-mails you privately, I don't think it should be shared.

Someone took the time to pull you aside and give you crit in private. That's all well and good, and you certainly don't have to agree with the crit. And essaying is great, IMHO. I think it helps a lot of players really delve into their characters, figure out where they're coming from, and helps them convey this to other players.

However, offering to share an e-mail someone else sent you without their consent doesn't sit right with me. At least ask them if they'd mind you sharing it or quoting them, particularly when they take the time out to send it signed! It's a matter of common courtesy.

[yare_yare]

Yes, that was me being stupid. Other people have pointed it out, and I can acknowledge that... Someone had to tell me outright what thr problem was, though. I clearly fail at social interaction.

[yare_yare]

And in the interests of keeping the identity of you secret for anyone who hasn't read it yet, I deleted your post. I'm keeping the responses to it around so everyone can see my idiocy in action, though.

[yare_yare]

...And read the above reason why I've deleted a few of the complaint posts as well. We discussed on the channel and I get what you're saying, you guys. Sorry it took so long to occur to me.