o.O Soul or Soulless!!??
J-san [SocialGenius1] has been urging me to post my thought in his thread. While I was thinking about it... all these Soul and Soulless things... At first, I had my solid thinking.. then when Chapter 178 came out... my mind go completely bizzare. And then with some slight straighten-up by others in TF, I thought I understood about the Soul issue... and now while I am gathering information on Yuuko saying about soul... I am stuck again O.O on xxxholic Ch. 13!! Is Yuuko mean literally or just a phrase when explaining to Watanuki!!!!
Well, I always consider C|Syaoran to be heartless!! But is he soulless as J-san asked?? I always thought that since C|Syaoran is a clone [a magically created being], he has to be soulless since soul in my concept is something that only exist when a person is born naturally and that the "soul" of a person is pre-determined before their birth on WHO they will become. At least, up till Chapter 178 was out o.O
Chapter 178 gave us a revelation concept that Sakura is a clone as well. However, she is a clone with a soul. It is seen clearly that C|Sakura's soul is separated from her body which is where her feather / heart reside. And even Yuuko on chapter 150 commented that Sakura's body and soul are separated. And I have confirmed that Yuuko used the word "Tamashii = soul" to describe Sakura's soul entering the dreamworld. While the word used to describe what the feather is consist of, as Jlarinda confirmed is the word "Kokoro = heart". And thus, we can conclude that Sakura's soul in the dreamworld IS NOT THE SAME as what the feather is consist of which is just the heart. In which this lead to the question, does that mean FWR can clone SOUL too ?? O.O However, syaoranmew reply to my comment remind me the concept of "one soul across all dimension despice different people"... That makes me think that cloning a soul shouldn't be "as easy as" just the body because the SOUL is all linked with all different people across dimension!! If FWR couldn't clone the soul, why does C|Sakura has a soul?? This is my 1st stuck braindead point!!
And then, Nekoi_Sakura came around and propose her theory which gets me thinking again!! She said that when C|Syaoran was holding C|Sakura and arrived at Yuuko's shop, she was cold and seems like a "soulless body" [since soul is consider a life source of a person]. And thus, she concluded that C|Sakura originally was cloned just as a BODY but no soul. However, as the feather / heart is "put" into her body, her soul slowly develop as the feather / heart is added in her and that's why she eventually wake up, "alive" and become more and more human-like [has her own thinking]. I don't think that's such a bad theory considering when FWR said "he want to install a mean so that C|Sakura would surrender her body but that fail". Wouldn't that mean FWR would know that C|Sakura would has a "soul" of her own?? That's when I started thinking about Cloney again... if based on Nekoi_Sakura's theory, C|Syaoran should of developed his own soul since in the same method the body is "inserted" with a heart and with all these years wouldn't he has a soul as well!? However, why is it that when C|Syaoran is separated from R|Syaoran's heart, he went to this "obeying order stage without his own thinking" while C|Sakura's soul when she was separated from her body [which is where her heart is reside] can still think and has all those memories with her!!! Could it be that FWR somehow able to "install the mean" in C|Syaoran's body so that his developed soul is "sealed away" even if it can foster!! I thus, I was JUST about to write ALL these which say that C|Syaoran COULD have a soul but is "sealed away".... but then, while looking up Yuuko's saying... I am stuck once again!! *headache*
In xxxholic, when Yuuko is explaining to Watanuki:
Chapter 13 page 16
Yuuko: The world in which we live in, there are also 2 people by the name of Sakura and Syaoran... who belong to Clow's bloodline!
Yuuko: However, they also exist in other world!!
Yuuko: Those in our yard now~~
Yuuko: Although they are from another world~~
Yuuko: Their soul is the same!
Is she referring to the one in our yard as in "the clone" or is she MERELY telling Watanuki that those 2 in our yard come from a different dimension and that they are NOT CCS|Syaoran and CCS|Sakura!? Because, seriously if Yuuko is referring them as "the clone"... then does that mean they have a "soul" and that their "soul" are the same as the other Syaoran and Sakura even though they are CREATED BEING by FWR!!?? o.O And thus conclude that FWR can COPYIED soul and C|Syaoran ACTUALLY has a SOUL and that C|Sakura didn't develop her own soul through the feather but was originally there when FWR CLONE her!! But then how does that WORK with C|Syaoran?? Is he soulless?? I thought soul is connected to heart!! C|Syaoran is still heartless though and just a KILLING MACHINE who obey EVERY order that FWR made!!?? o.O
AH~~ I seriously don't get how the soul work as a CLONE!!
CLAMP why did you HAVE to do this!! ALL THESE CLONE, SOUL and HEART issue~~ GOD, I know I would NEVER think about THOSE things in REAL LIFE~~
Should I seriously post my Manic, bizzare, mind blow-up thinking in the thread?? I am EVEN confusing myself!! o_____O AND GOD that's so LONG!! O___O MY MIND HURT SO BAD!!
ETA~~ AND what in the world is R|Sakura's soul doing the whole time in the tube~~ Was she asleep the whole time during the WHOLE JOURNEY ?? GAH~~ I hope she know all the things that has happened during the journey~~ seriously, that's LOTS OF development going on in the JOURNEY!!
Well, I always consider C|Syaoran to be heartless!! But is he soulless as J-san asked?? I always thought that since C|Syaoran is a clone [a magically created being], he has to be soulless since soul in my concept is something that only exist when a person is born naturally and that the "soul" of a person is pre-determined before their birth on WHO they will become. At least, up till Chapter 178 was out o.O
Chapter 178 gave us a revelation concept that Sakura is a clone as well. However, she is a clone with a soul. It is seen clearly that C|Sakura's soul is separated from her body which is where her feather / heart reside. And even Yuuko on chapter 150 commented that Sakura's body and soul are separated. And I have confirmed that Yuuko used the word "Tamashii = soul" to describe Sakura's soul entering the dreamworld. While the word used to describe what the feather is consist of, as Jlarinda confirmed is the word "Kokoro = heart". And thus, we can conclude that Sakura's soul in the dreamworld IS NOT THE SAME as what the feather is consist of which is just the heart. In which this lead to the question, does that mean FWR can clone SOUL too ?? O.O However, syaoranmew reply to my comment remind me the concept of "one soul across all dimension despice different people"... That makes me think that cloning a soul shouldn't be "as easy as" just the body because the SOUL is all linked with all different people across dimension!! If FWR couldn't clone the soul, why does C|Sakura has a soul?? This is my 1st stuck braindead point!!
And then, Nekoi_Sakura came around and propose her theory which gets me thinking again!! She said that when C|Syaoran was holding C|Sakura and arrived at Yuuko's shop, she was cold and seems like a "soulless body" [since soul is consider a life source of a person]. And thus, she concluded that C|Sakura originally was cloned just as a BODY but no soul. However, as the feather / heart is "put" into her body, her soul slowly develop as the feather / heart is added in her and that's why she eventually wake up, "alive" and become more and more human-like [has her own thinking]. I don't think that's such a bad theory considering when FWR said "he want to install a mean so that C|Sakura would surrender her body but that fail". Wouldn't that mean FWR would know that C|Sakura would has a "soul" of her own?? That's when I started thinking about Cloney again... if based on Nekoi_Sakura's theory, C|Syaoran should of developed his own soul since in the same method the body is "inserted" with a heart and with all these years wouldn't he has a soul as well!? However, why is it that when C|Syaoran is separated from R|Syaoran's heart, he went to this "obeying order stage without his own thinking" while C|Sakura's soul when she was separated from her body [which is where her heart is reside] can still think and has all those memories with her!!! Could it be that FWR somehow able to "install the mean" in C|Syaoran's body so that his developed soul is "sealed away" even if it can foster!! I thus, I was JUST about to write ALL these which say that C|Syaoran COULD have a soul but is "sealed away".... but then, while looking up Yuuko's saying... I am stuck once again!! *headache*
In xxxholic, when Yuuko is explaining to Watanuki:
Chapter 13 page 16
Yuuko: The world in which we live in, there are also 2 people by the name of Sakura and Syaoran... who belong to Clow's bloodline!
Yuuko: However, they also exist in other world!!
Yuuko: Those in our yard now~~
Yuuko: Although they are from another world~~
Yuuko: Their soul is the same!
Is she referring to the one in our yard as in "the clone" or is she MERELY telling Watanuki that those 2 in our yard come from a different dimension and that they are NOT CCS|Syaoran and CCS|Sakura!? Because, seriously if Yuuko is referring them as "the clone"... then does that mean they have a "soul" and that their "soul" are the same as the other Syaoran and Sakura even though they are CREATED BEING by FWR!!?? o.O And thus conclude that FWR can COPYIED soul and C|Syaoran ACTUALLY has a SOUL and that C|Sakura didn't develop her own soul through the feather but was originally there when FWR CLONE her!! But then how does that WORK with C|Syaoran?? Is he soulless?? I thought soul is connected to heart!! C|Syaoran is still heartless though and just a KILLING MACHINE who obey EVERY order that FWR made!!?? o.O
AH~~ I seriously don't get how the soul work as a CLONE!!
CLAMP why did you HAVE to do this!! ALL THESE CLONE, SOUL and HEART issue~~ GOD, I know I would NEVER think about THOSE things in REAL LIFE~~
Should I seriously post my Manic, bizzare, mind blow-up thinking in the thread?? I am EVEN confusing myself!! o_____O AND GOD that's so LONG!! O___O MY MIND HURT SO BAD!!
ETA~~ AND what in the world is R|Sakura's soul doing the whole time in the tube~~ Was she asleep the whole time during the WHOLE JOURNEY ?? GAH~~ I hope she know all the things that has happened during the journey~~ seriously, that's LOTS OF development going on in the JOURNEY!!