I KNEW there was a reason for it!
So, come one in the morning (which is just Good Idea Time for Kiaxet, don't'cha know), I decide it would be fun to watch some Chrno Crusade AMVs.
Wrooooooooong.
[17:47] LeSeptieme: ...oh, man, now I remember why I hate the anime so much. ;;;
[17:47] jupiterfulmine: which anime?
[17:47] LeSeptieme: *watching some truly depressing Chrno Crusade AMVs*
[17:47] jupiterfulmine: ah
[17:48] LeSeptieme: yeah. >>;
[17:50] LeSeptieme: ...only anime I've ever seen where stigmata is a plot device. >>;
[17:50] jupiterfulmine: stigmata is a plot device?
[17:51] LeSeptieme: ohhhhh yes.
[17:51] LeSeptieme: and it pisses me off to no bloody end.
[17:51] jupiterfulmine: so, let me phrase this totally wrong
[17:52] jupiterfulmine: How the hell can stigmata be used as a PLOT DEVICE?
[17:53] LeSeptieme: ...............
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[17:53] LeSeptieme: -_-
[17:53] KillLifeRound: >.>
[17:53] lilacootachi: o_o
[17:53] jupiterfulmine: sorry, I shoudn't have said it that way
[17:53] jupiterfulmine: How can it be used as a plot device though?
[17:54] LeSeptieme: oh SHIT I'd forgotten about that scene.
[17:54] lilacootachi: o_O
[17:54] lilacootachi: what scene?
[17:55] LeSeptieme: ...;;;;;;;
[17:55] LeSeptieme: SUBCONSCIOUS BLOCKING IS A GO. ;;;;;
[17:55] lilacootachi: :[
[17:55] lilacootachi: what sceeeeeene
[17:55] LeSeptieme: I can just link you all the AMV if yo want.
[17:55] lilacootachi: *has been years since she's seen the anime*
[17:55] lilacootachi: sure
[17:57] LeSeptieme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ-_12vH2c4
[17:57] LeSeptieme: the scene where she USES HER BLOOD TO BURN CHRNO?
[17:57] LeSeptieme: yeah.
[17:57] LeSeptieme: that scene.
[17:57] lilacootachi: ...I don't remember that
[17:57] LeSeptieme: I KNEW THERE WAS A REASON I DIDN'T LIKE THE ANIME.
[17:57] lilacootachi: XD
[17:58] LeSeptieme: it's after she's lost her mind?
[17:58] lilacootachi: but then again, at least three years now since I watched it
[17:58] lilacootachi: :[
[17:58] LeSeptieme: same here, and it's nowhere near long enough. -_-
[17:58] jupiterfulmine: interesting
[17:58] LeSeptieme: And I know now why I hate the anime - because I like Rosette.
[17:58] lilacootachi: I think I want that music, though
[17:58] lilacootachi: :B
[17:58] LeSeptieme: and if you guys think *I'm* mean to her...
[17:59] LeSeptieme: ohhhh, no, you should see what the anime writers do to her.
[17:59] LeSeptieme: would you like a short rant instead of wasting 26 episodes' worth of time on the anime? :D;
[18:00] jupiterfulmine: please
[18:00] LeSeptieme: gee, okay, what the anime writers do to Rosette.
[18:00] LeSeptieme: let her be kissed BY AION within the first ten episodes.
[18:00] LeSeptieme: FORCED, nonetheless.
[18:00] LeSeptieme: give her stigmata.
[18:01] lilacootachi: you know, I thought a little while back "hm, I might be interested in buying the series, I'll go see the price of it"
[18:01] lilacootachi: ...$75
[18:01] LeSeptieme: have her LOSE HER MIND.
[18:01] LeSeptieme: (not worth it. so not worth it.)
[18:01] lilacootachi: I think I'll pass and go for other series, definitely
[18:01] lilacootachi: :B
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[18:01] lilacootachi: yeah, so I've been told
[18:01] LeSeptieme: turn her into a saint, strangely enough.
[18:01] lilacootachi: hi
[18:01] LeSeptieme: put her under the control of Aion.
[18:01] jupiterfulmine: Question!
[18:01] LeSeptieme: have her DEMAND HER TIME BACK FROM CHRNO.
[18:01] jupiterfulmine: Who's Aion?
[18:01] LeSeptieme: AND THEN USE HER BLOOD TO BURN HIM.
[18:01] LeSeptieme: big villain of the series. major creeper. >>
[18:02] lilacootachi: the most I remember is that I was bawling at the middle of the last episode ^_^;;
[18:02] LeSeptieme: AND THEN HAVE HER GET STIGMATA *AGAIN.*
[18:02] lilacootachi: ....and then the rest of it was like
[18:02] jupiterfulmine: ok
[18:02] lilacootachi: "okay, wtf just happened"
[18:02] jupiterfulmine: Why does he give her stigmata though?
[18:02] jupiterfulmine: *totally sounds like a kid in class*
[18:02] LeSeptieme: and then have her DIE. in the MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.
[18:02] sanura ausbloom: *personally, i prefer the manga* TT
[18:03] LeSeptieme: she never gets her brother back, she lives the last six months of her life in CONSTANT PAIN AND WEAKNESS...
[18:03] LeSeptieme: he doesn't give it to her, it's her destiny as a saint!
[18:03] LeSeptieme: or some such nonsense.
[18:03] sanura ausbloom: *manga ending is happier* yay
[18:03] LeSeptieme: I hate the anime.
[18:03] jupiterfulmine: ...not all saints have stigmata
[18:03] LeSeptieme: MANGA HAPPY ENDING YAY.
[18:03] lilacootachi: I still want this music
[18:03] lilacootachi: :B
[18:03] LeSeptieme: I know, Shannon, I don't know what the bloody hell the anime creators were thinking. ;;;;
[18:03] LeSeptieme: oh, yeah, Nightwish wins at life. of course. :3
[18:03] jupiterfulmine: ok, I'm just confused
[18:03] lilacootachi: "dramaz, dramaz, and more dramaz"
[18:04] LeSeptieme: "AND THEN EVERYBODY DIES. :D"
[18:04] jupiterfulmine: *is Catholic and studied a lot of saints in Catholic school*
[18:04] sanura ausbloom: ...Basically they were trying to hard to underline the "christian influences" TT
[18:04] LeSeptieme: great series! all we're missing is ROCKS FALLING.
[18:04] sanura ausbloom: XD
[18:04] LeSeptieme: seriously. that's ALL the ending needed. falling bloody rocks.
[18:04] jupiterfulmine: we're RPers, we can rewrite that
[18:04] LeSeptieme: and the Christian influences were obviously written in by somebody who had noooooo idea what the hell they were doing.
[18:05] jupiterfulmine: sounds like it
[18:05] LeSeptieme: "stigmata! yay! fun stuff! AND THEN HER BLOOD CAN BURN DEMONS. EMO!WANGST!TIME! :D"
[18:05] sanura ausbloom: ....yup and now to the extensive pile of math homework. D:
[18:05] sanura ausbloom: *wonders why the hell her teacher assigned 5 problem sets due tomorrow?*
[18:05] LeSeptieme: Screw you, anime, I like my Rosette sane and relatively intact.
[18:06] LeSeptieme: aww, Emmy. ;;;
[18:06] LeSeptieme: <3
[18:06] jupiterfulmine: Wait, if her blood burns demons, is Chrno a demon?
[18:06] MysticW2002: How does the manga end, as I have absolutely no prospect whatsoever of seeing it in the next three years?
[18:06] jupiterfulmine: *totally doesn't know the fandom*
[18:06] LeSeptieme: yep.
[18:06] jupiterfulmine: aha
[18:06] LeSeptieme: Chrno is indeed a demon. that's the whole point.
[18:07] LeSeptieme: The manga has a happy ending! THEY END UP TOGETHER. Joshua recovers. GOOD STUFF HAPPENS. THERE'S RESOLUTION AND HOPE. ;;;;
[18:07] MysticW2002: YAY
[18:08] LeSeptieme: I just...if you want the ending of the manga as to how it differs from the anime, I need to start at about volume 5 of the manga (of 8). XD;
[18:08] MysticW2002: So, the anime is a lot like the ending of Neon Genesis Evangelion.
[18:08] LeSeptieme: the direction is completely different - no, not really.
[18:08] MysticW2002: Basically, 'SCREW YOU FANS!'
[18:08] LeSeptieme: Evangelion is just sheer brainbreak. Chrno Crusade loses hope around episode 18 and just never bothers to get it back.
[18:08] LeSeptieme: ...yeah, that works. XD;
[18:08] MysticW2002: XD
[18:09] LeSeptieme: and the character set in CC is amazingly resilient, really. The writers just threw too damn much at them all at once, and boom, breakdown time.
[18:09] MysticW2002: This only serves to reinforce my original opinion of series and movies in general.
[18:09] MysticW2002: I'd rather read the damn book.
[18:09] LeSeptieme: ...Really, I've got to stop ranting. it just GETS ME. ;;;;
[18:09] jupiterfulmine: *pats* it's ok
[18:09] MysticW2002: *luffs on Kiaxet*
[18:10] sanura ausbloom: *patpats* Everyone rants some time? XD
[18:10] jupiterfulmine: you should have heard me when I believed that CSI jumped the shart
[18:10] LeSeptieme: this is true. XD;
[18:10] jupiterfulmine: shark*
[18:10] LeSeptieme: it doesn't help that I've got two Rosette muses both going nuts in my head at that AMV. XD;
[18:10] jupiterfulmine: I was highly entertaining, according to my roommate
The long and short of the tl;dr (SPOILERS ABOUND, BTW) is that I hate the Chrno Crusade anime because the writers take a strong and steady set of characters and, through a sequence of events that is both uneducated (WTF Christian influences?) and horribly contrived, proceed to overwhelm and shatter them.
Now, those of you who RP with me or have heard of my escapades may argue, "But Kiaxet! Breaking Rosette is one of your favorite pastimes!" First of all, um, no, it isn't. (Do I really give off that impression? o-o;) Whenever that happens, it generally has to do with the plot. The one exception is when the Master got to her in Template, but hey, that's the Master. Secondly, you'll notice whenever I decide to take her down through Brainbreak Bypass, I always make sure she can come out the other side (oftentimes with help, but nonetheless). None of this crazy Killing-My-Muse-Now stuff, thanks very much. If I ever get to the HI MY BLOOD BURNS :D point and am actually serious about it, please take my laptop, as I will no longer deserve it.
So, yes. If I never watch that anime again, it'll be too soon. End rant. *bows*
Wrooooooooong.
[17:47] LeSeptieme: ...oh, man, now I remember why I hate the anime so much. ;;;
[17:47] jupiterfulmine: which anime?
[17:47] LeSeptieme: *watching some truly depressing Chrno Crusade AMVs*
[17:47] jupiterfulmine: ah
[17:48] LeSeptieme: yeah. >>;
[17:50] LeSeptieme: ...only anime I've ever seen where stigmata is a plot device. >>;
[17:50] jupiterfulmine: stigmata is a plot device?
[17:51] LeSeptieme: ohhhhh yes.
[17:51] LeSeptieme: and it pisses me off to no bloody end.
[17:51] jupiterfulmine: so, let me phrase this totally wrong
[17:52] jupiterfulmine: How the hell can stigmata be used as a PLOT DEVICE?
[17:53] LeSeptieme: ...............
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[17:53] LeSeptieme: -_-
[17:53] KillLifeRound: >.>
[17:53] lilacootachi: o_o
[17:53] jupiterfulmine: sorry, I shoudn't have said it that way
[17:53] jupiterfulmine: How can it be used as a plot device though?
[17:54] LeSeptieme: oh SHIT I'd forgotten about that scene.
[17:54] lilacootachi: o_O
[17:54] lilacootachi: what scene?
[17:55] LeSeptieme: ...;;;;;;;
[17:55] LeSeptieme: SUBCONSCIOUS BLOCKING IS A GO. ;;;;;
[17:55] lilacootachi: :[
[17:55] lilacootachi: what sceeeeeene
[17:55] LeSeptieme: I can just link you all the AMV if yo want.
[17:55] lilacootachi: *has been years since she's seen the anime*
[17:55] lilacootachi: sure
[17:57] LeSeptieme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ-_12vH2c4
[17:57] LeSeptieme: the scene where she USES HER BLOOD TO BURN CHRNO?
[17:57] LeSeptieme: yeah.
[17:57] LeSeptieme: that scene.
[17:57] lilacootachi: ...I don't remember that
[17:57] LeSeptieme: I KNEW THERE WAS A REASON I DIDN'T LIKE THE ANIME.
[17:57] lilacootachi: XD
[17:58] LeSeptieme: it's after she's lost her mind?
[17:58] lilacootachi: but then again, at least three years now since I watched it
[17:58] lilacootachi: :[
[17:58] LeSeptieme: same here, and it's nowhere near long enough. -_-
[17:58] jupiterfulmine: interesting
[17:58] LeSeptieme: And I know now why I hate the anime - because I like Rosette.
[17:58] lilacootachi: I think I want that music, though
[17:58] lilacootachi: :B
[17:58] LeSeptieme: and if you guys think *I'm* mean to her...
[17:59] LeSeptieme: ohhhh, no, you should see what the anime writers do to her.
[17:59] LeSeptieme: would you like a short rant instead of wasting 26 episodes' worth of time on the anime? :D;
[18:00] jupiterfulmine: please
[18:00] LeSeptieme: gee, okay, what the anime writers do to Rosette.
[18:00] LeSeptieme: let her be kissed BY AION within the first ten episodes.
[18:00] LeSeptieme: FORCED, nonetheless.
[18:00] LeSeptieme: give her stigmata.
[18:01] lilacootachi: you know, I thought a little while back "hm, I might be interested in buying the series, I'll go see the price of it"
[18:01] lilacootachi: ...$75
[18:01] LeSeptieme: have her LOSE HER MIND.
[18:01] LeSeptieme: (not worth it. so not worth it.)
[18:01] lilacootachi: I think I'll pass and go for other series, definitely
[18:01] lilacootachi: :B
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[18:01] lilacootachi: yeah, so I've been told
[18:01] LeSeptieme: turn her into a saint, strangely enough.
[18:01] lilacootachi: hi
[18:01] LeSeptieme: put her under the control of Aion.
[18:01] jupiterfulmine: Question!
[18:01] LeSeptieme: have her DEMAND HER TIME BACK FROM CHRNO.
[18:01] jupiterfulmine: Who's Aion?
[18:01] LeSeptieme: AND THEN USE HER BLOOD TO BURN HIM.
[18:01] LeSeptieme: big villain of the series. major creeper. >>
[18:02] lilacootachi: the most I remember is that I was bawling at the middle of the last episode ^_^;;
[18:02] LeSeptieme: AND THEN HAVE HER GET STIGMATA *AGAIN.*
[18:02] lilacootachi: ....and then the rest of it was like
[18:02] jupiterfulmine: ok
[18:02] lilacootachi: "okay, wtf just happened"
[18:02] jupiterfulmine: Why does he give her stigmata though?
[18:02] jupiterfulmine: *totally sounds like a kid in class*
[18:02] LeSeptieme: and then have her DIE. in the MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.
[18:02] sanura ausbloom: *personally, i prefer the manga* TT
[18:03] LeSeptieme: she never gets her brother back, she lives the last six months of her life in CONSTANT PAIN AND WEAKNESS...
[18:03] LeSeptieme: he doesn't give it to her, it's her destiny as a saint!
[18:03] LeSeptieme: or some such nonsense.
[18:03] sanura ausbloom: *manga ending is happier* yay
[18:03] LeSeptieme: I hate the anime.
[18:03] jupiterfulmine: ...not all saints have stigmata
[18:03] LeSeptieme: MANGA HAPPY ENDING YAY.
[18:03] lilacootachi: I still want this music
[18:03] lilacootachi: :B
[18:03] LeSeptieme: I know, Shannon, I don't know what the bloody hell the anime creators were thinking. ;;;;
[18:03] LeSeptieme: oh, yeah, Nightwish wins at life. of course. :3
[18:03] jupiterfulmine: ok, I'm just confused
[18:03] lilacootachi: "dramaz, dramaz, and more dramaz"
[18:04] LeSeptieme: "AND THEN EVERYBODY DIES. :D"
[18:04] jupiterfulmine: *is Catholic and studied a lot of saints in Catholic school*
[18:04] sanura ausbloom: ...Basically they were trying to hard to underline the "christian influences" TT
[18:04] LeSeptieme: great series! all we're missing is ROCKS FALLING.
[18:04] sanura ausbloom: XD
[18:04] LeSeptieme: seriously. that's ALL the ending needed. falling bloody rocks.
[18:04] jupiterfulmine: we're RPers, we can rewrite that
[18:04] LeSeptieme: and the Christian influences were obviously written in by somebody who had noooooo idea what the hell they were doing.
[18:05] jupiterfulmine: sounds like it
[18:05] LeSeptieme: "stigmata! yay! fun stuff! AND THEN HER BLOOD CAN BURN DEMONS. EMO!WANGST!TIME! :D"
[18:05] sanura ausbloom: ....yup and now to the extensive pile of math homework. D:
[18:05] sanura ausbloom: *wonders why the hell her teacher assigned 5 problem sets due tomorrow?*
[18:05] LeSeptieme: Screw you, anime, I like my Rosette sane and relatively intact.
[18:06] LeSeptieme: aww, Emmy. ;;;
[18:06] LeSeptieme: <3
[18:06] jupiterfulmine: Wait, if her blood burns demons, is Chrno a demon?
[18:06] MysticW2002: How does the manga end, as I have absolutely no prospect whatsoever of seeing it in the next three years?
[18:06] jupiterfulmine: *totally doesn't know the fandom*
[18:06] LeSeptieme: yep.
[18:06] jupiterfulmine: aha
[18:06] LeSeptieme: Chrno is indeed a demon. that's the whole point.
[18:07] LeSeptieme: The manga has a happy ending! THEY END UP TOGETHER. Joshua recovers. GOOD STUFF HAPPENS. THERE'S RESOLUTION AND HOPE. ;;;;
[18:07] MysticW2002: YAY
[18:08] LeSeptieme: I just...if you want the ending of the manga as to how it differs from the anime, I need to start at about volume 5 of the manga (of 8). XD;
[18:08] MysticW2002: So, the anime is a lot like the ending of Neon Genesis Evangelion.
[18:08] LeSeptieme: the direction is completely different - no, not really.
[18:08] MysticW2002: Basically, 'SCREW YOU FANS!'
[18:08] LeSeptieme: Evangelion is just sheer brainbreak. Chrno Crusade loses hope around episode 18 and just never bothers to get it back.
[18:08] LeSeptieme: ...yeah, that works. XD;
[18:08] MysticW2002: XD
[18:09] LeSeptieme: and the character set in CC is amazingly resilient, really. The writers just threw too damn much at them all at once, and boom, breakdown time.
[18:09] MysticW2002: This only serves to reinforce my original opinion of series and movies in general.
[18:09] MysticW2002: I'd rather read the damn book.
[18:09] LeSeptieme: ...Really, I've got to stop ranting. it just GETS ME. ;;;;
[18:09] jupiterfulmine: *pats* it's ok
[18:09] MysticW2002: *luffs on Kiaxet*
[18:10] sanura ausbloom: *patpats* Everyone rants some time? XD
[18:10] jupiterfulmine: you should have heard me when I believed that CSI jumped the shart
[18:10] LeSeptieme: this is true. XD;
[18:10] jupiterfulmine: shark*
[18:10] LeSeptieme: it doesn't help that I've got two Rosette muses both going nuts in my head at that AMV. XD;
[18:10] jupiterfulmine: I was highly entertaining, according to my roommate
The long and short of the tl;dr (SPOILERS ABOUND, BTW) is that I hate the Chrno Crusade anime because the writers take a strong and steady set of characters and, through a sequence of events that is both uneducated (WTF Christian influences?) and horribly contrived, proceed to overwhelm and shatter them.
Now, those of you who RP with me or have heard of my escapades may argue, "But Kiaxet! Breaking Rosette is one of your favorite pastimes!" First of all, um, no, it isn't. (Do I really give off that impression? o-o;) Whenever that happens, it generally has to do with the plot. The one exception is when the Master got to her in Template, but hey, that's the Master. Secondly, you'll notice whenever I decide to take her down through Brainbreak Bypass, I always make sure she can come out the other side (oftentimes with help, but nonetheless). None of this crazy Killing-My-Muse-Now stuff, thanks very much. If I ever get to the HI MY BLOOD BURNS :D point and am actually serious about it, please take my laptop, as I will no longer deserve it.
So, yes. If I never watch that anime again, it'll be too soon. End rant. *bows*