i dont see myself preaching to anyone. i wrote how i felt in my journal. im not directing at people, they can choose to read or they can to choose to move on. i dont preach to nor do i badger people who aren't vegan or vegetarian. if they ask me why im vegan then i tell them, simple as that. im not a missionary trying to recruit people to the movement. im just a person who is passionate about what he believes in, and instead of getting angry at people, i vent my frustrations in my journal.
It has a tendency to come across preachy, though. Nothing personal to you.
Lately I see and hear people all the time saying "Oh Id totally like that person if they were Vegan." Its bullshit and its prejudice no matter how you look at it. It seems like the more Vegan people I meet, the more dissapointed I am - and it has nothing to do with the beliefs its completely in how they present themselves with the better-than-everyone attitude. Ive never met a non-vegan who only dates other non-vegans. Plain and simple.
It also seems that Vegans have to make it a point that you know they're Vegan. They cant just say "I like these cosmetics/products" its always "I like these because they're vegan." Or "This is good because its Vegan food." It always gets put as some grand statement that cant be avoided. Great. Be vegan. Awesome. I guess I just dont see why it has to be waved in front of everyone. [again, not you specifically.]
i know where you're coming from with the whole "i would like this if it was vegan" and so on. i hear people saying it all of the time, and it's bothersome. and im not going to say that i haven't said that either because im sure i have.
and i can't speak for others but i like it when people know that im vegan, not because i feel that im better than anyone, but i mean, i guess it's for my own clarity, it makes me feel like there's more to me than meets the eye. it makes me feel like there's a little something in me that separates me from everyone else.
now on dating someone who isn't vegan. once again i can't speak on behalf of everyone, but i would prefer to date someone who is vegan over someone who isn't mainly because i think meat is gross. after learning all that i have i cant help but think that. but at the same time love know no boundaries and if it ever happened that i fell in love with someone who wasn't vegan or vegetarian, then so be it. love is something that some people never find, and when you do you need to hold on to
Okay, but your LJ nickname is "too vegan for you!". Is it a competition? ...cause...I must've missed that part. It just reiterates everyting that I brought up before. Its like some holier-than-thou attitude that is unavoidable with probably 98% of all the vegans Ive met. I recall an entry not too long ago where you got pissed at someone and said "You think you can out-vegan me?" OUT-VEGAN?! If its all about making YOUR life better and all about YOU feeling more healthy, and "YOUR own clarity" these terms like "out-vegan" and "too vegan for you" shouldnt have any sort of place what so ever. Period.
when i wrote that it was because i was frustrated that my friend told me he didn't trust me that something wasn't vegan because im not "sugar free" so i was upset and the "too vegan for you" was my way of being a shit talk
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I listened to your "reason" and wasnt impressed. Drew doesnt center his entire entries around veganism... I have no problem with Drew whatsoever. Im just trying to see where youre coming from and stir up questions and conversation - if you cant handle it, fine. You cant handle it.
you're right change is a part of life, if you think that you're not gonig to be able to stay true to your convictions go vegetarian. veganism is for those who are looking for more.
you know you're correct people are young and they can't predict the future. if you dont know in your heart that a lifestyle such as veganism (which is a serious matter of life) is something that you want to devote your self, to in a manner of speaking then you shouldn't claim it. it's like the whole people thinking their straight edge because they're not drinking this week. it's annoying. i guess in a way you could think of the severity as such. a woman has a baby, she is now a mother, she can't just one day say "hey you know what, i dont think i want to be a mom anymore" it doesn't work like that. lives are depending on her. it's somewhat the same concept with veganism. only these are animal lives depending on you. and you may think that an animals life is not as important as a humans, but what honestly makes us better than them? nothing. compassion is a wonderful thing
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i knew you were going to take the whole motherhood veganism comparison and run with it. it was just a figure of speech to do nothing more than provide you (or maybe myself) with somewhat of an idea of what i was saying. motherhood is bigger than veganism you're correct about that, but anything else said about this subject could lead us down another path, so the rest of what i feel about motherhood and abortions will be kept to myself as will any other arguments i know i will cause with the continuation of these posts.
i will end it with this though. i have a lot of respect for you. i admire how you are willing to tell me what you think about what i have to say, and not tell me what you think i want to here, because im "attractive."
i admire how you are willing to tell me what you think about what i have to say, and not tell me what you think i want to here, because im "attractive."
HAHAHAHA God damn. Sorry to say it, but what an asshole thing to say. Get off the high horse, kid.
why the fuck am i even on your buddy list? the only time you ever comment on my journal is when you're talking shit. and "get off my high horse" give me a break. im not a fucking retard i know that im an attractive person, and i also know that people tell me what i want to hear because of that. thus the reason for the statement. there are so many things that i could and would love to say to you. but i wont because these things are childish. if you dont have something positive to say to me or at least something helpful, stay out of my business.
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Maybe its preachyness like that which drove people out of it in the first place.
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Lately I see and hear people all the time saying "Oh Id totally like that person if they were Vegan." Its bullshit and its prejudice no matter how you look at it. It seems like the more Vegan people I meet, the more dissapointed I am - and it has nothing to do with the beliefs its completely in how they present themselves with the better-than-everyone attitude.
Ive never met a non-vegan who only dates other non-vegans.
Plain and simple.
It also seems that Vegans have to make it a point that you know they're Vegan. They cant just say "I like these cosmetics/products" its always "I like these because they're vegan." Or "This is good because its Vegan food." It always gets put as some grand statement that cant be avoided.
Great. Be vegan. Awesome.
I guess I just dont see why it has to be waved in front of everyone. [again, not you specifically.]
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and i can't speak for others but i like it when people know that im vegan, not because i feel that im better than anyone, but i mean, i guess it's for my own clarity, it makes me feel like there's more to me than meets the eye. it makes me feel like there's a little something in me that separates me from everyone else.
now on dating someone who isn't vegan. once again i can't speak on behalf of everyone, but i would prefer to date someone who is vegan over someone who isn't mainly because i think meat is gross. after learning all that i have i cant help but think that. but at the same time love know no boundaries and if it ever happened that i fell in love with someone who wasn't vegan or vegetarian, then so be it. love is something that some people never find, and when you do you need to hold on to
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I recall an entry not too long ago where you got pissed at someone and said "You think you can out-vegan me?" OUT-VEGAN?! If its all about making YOUR life better and all about YOU feeling more healthy, and "YOUR own clarity" these terms like "out-vegan" and "too vegan for you" shouldnt have any sort of place what so ever.
Period.
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Im just trying to see where youre coming from and stir up questions and conversation - if you cant handle it, fine. You cant handle it.
Oh and your fashion mullet is fucking ugly.
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i will end it with this though. i have a lot of respect for you. i admire how you are willing to tell me what you think about what i have to say, and not tell me what you think i want to here, because im "attractive."
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HAHAHAHA
God damn. Sorry to say it, but what an asshole thing to say.
Get off the high horse, kid.
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and "get off my high horse" give me a break. im not a fucking retard i know that im an attractive person, and i also know that people tell me what i want to hear because of that. thus the reason for the statement. there are so many things that i could and would love to say to you. but i wont because these things are childish. if you dont have something positive to say to me or at least something helpful, stay out of my business.
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