PATH OF RESISTANCE SHOW

Jan 04, 2005 02:11

this weekend was so amazing. on new years day it was 61 degrees here in philly. we woke up early, rode in t shirts to the health food store, then got a giant meal and ate outside with our friends. short sleeves in january!!!!! there had been a parade earlier in the day and all these drunk men in dresses, face paint, and spray painted gold high top ( Read more... )

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xclodx January 4 2005, 19:52:23 UTC
Davin,
1. Rob was not vegan when they wrote Bloodlust Revenge (he was vegan for a time before that). He was, and still is, vegetarian and fully embraces a vegetarian lifestyle.
2. To go from respecting someone so much that you wish to emulate them to hating them enough to talk shit without even speaking with them is something I never would have expected of you. You are one of the most passionate and intelligent people I've ever met, but that comment is so below you due to the inherint ignorance of it. Rob is a good person, who is very passionate about many of the things you believe in (straight edge, yoga, being in shape, vegetarianism, compassion towards others, etc) and does not deserve the label you placed on him. As I told you at the show, despite the fact that he is not vegan currently, he stills does far more then most. I would go so far as to say the he does more then many of the vegan kids in the world today. Rob protests, speaks out about his beliefs, and has never backed down from what he thought was right. Just because veganism is the correct choice for people like you and me, does not make it right for everyone.

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xgoldteethx January 5 2005, 17:37:15 UTC
oh todd. i mean, i don't know if rob was vegan when he wrote bloodlust revenge or not. it's pretty silly if he wasn't. but, a vegan sellout is a vegan sellout, and yes the choice isn't right for everyone (like people in countries where veganism isn't possible/sustainable), but it's right for you, me, and surely rob king down if he could get over his selfish craving for cheese and eggs at the expense of the prolonged torture and eventually murder of another creature.
i don't really have much respect for vegetarianism, and being a yoga/fitness advocate is cool, but it doesn't stop him from being a really huge hypocrit.
also, i've never wished to "emulate" rob, for a long time i didn't even know who he was. his words just inspired me to makes changes that have impacts every second of every day of my life. just like some of my favorite authors. if derrek jensen (environmental anarchist author) became a logger, i'd lose a lot of and/ or all respect for him, and i think that's pretty reasonable. if robin morgan (one of the most influential and amazing feminist writers of our time) gave it up to be work for playboy, i'd rightly lose respect for her as well. people who become the mouthpiece for different ideas, who put themselves in very public realms to promote those ideas, passionately might i add, really are held to different standards than say... the average earth crisis vegan of late 90's hardcore. no suprise when THEY sold out, but it'd be different if carl did, ya know?

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xclodx January 6 2005, 00:37:42 UTC
So does that mean that if I gave up veganism or the edge that you would lose respect for me and talk like that about me?

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xgoldteethx January 6 2005, 01:05:44 UTC
did you even read what i wrote? toddddddddddddd, listen to me. you are not a spokesperson for veganism, and haven't dedicated a portion of your life to militantly educating people about vegan lifestyles. if you sold out i'd lose a lot of respect, but we'd still be friends. rob and i don't know eachother, and he was a main figure in the vegan movement within hardcore. perhaps you just can't grasp what i'm saying, but there's really no other ways for me to put this.

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xclodx January 6 2005, 12:55:30 UTC
Davin, Rob was not vegan when they wrote Bloodlust Revenge. He was vegan prior to that, but not during its conception, production, or touring. He was, and still does, speak about vegetarian lifestyle, being edge, and animal rights (from a vegetarian standpoint). He is 100% against fur, animal testing, etc, but was not then(and is not now) vegan.

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