Just got back from Jurassic World
First Point: Theaters should really ban parents from bringing their toddlers to PG-13 movies. Especially movies that border into the scary territory. We had a toddler screaming her head off for 15 minutes before an usher came. Keep your fucking kids at home.
About the movie: I thought it was a good, summer blockbuster. Admittedly, I might have ( Read more... )
About the movie: I thought it was a good, summer blockbuster. Admittedly, I might have ( Read more... )
It's like telling me that Pinhead (from "Hellraiser") takes BDSM consent rules seriously and uses safe words. A velociraptor that can be trained just doesn't sound like the same creature we saw in the first film.
Looking back, I'm a little confused as to when the big dinosaur craze started since it seems to pre-date Jurassic Park. I remember Spielberg's animatronic comedy series "Dinosaurs" and I remember making the mistake of renting a movie known in the UK only as "Dinosaurs: The Movie" (but in America it is known as "Adventures in Dinosaur City" ) both of which seem to have been released in 1991. The little plastic Monster In My Pockets also had a range of dinosaurs in 1992 (which was after I'd stopped bothering with those, but still certainly before the release of Jurassic Park).
I guess there's always a big passion for dinosaur-related stuff and so if this new film inspires that, then that's cool. I'm happy to stick with the first movie though.
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They explain it within the movie in a "yeah, sure" kind of way. Basically Pratt's character "imprinted" on the velociraptors and they respond (somewhat) to his commands, which is basically just "look at me" and "track this thing down". They aren't 100% under Pratt's--or any of the humans--control, and the movie does show this.
It's kinda like Siegfried and Roy and their animals. Yes, they trained them; but ultimately they are still animals, and accidents will and do happen. But I understand--in the basic explanation it sounds stupid. It comes off better in the movie IMO.
Looking back, I'm a little confused as to when the big dinosaur craze started since it seems to pre-date Jurassic Park.
I'm not sure when it started either; but I've always suspected that it "boomed" after JP came out. I'm not sure how old you are (or about the "dino craze" in the UK), but I was 5 when JP came out and seemed like JP invigorated a lot of interest in dinosaurs. (It did for me, at least.)
I remember that animatronic show you're talking about (not the movie, though) ETA: Never mind, I looked up the movie. It's called We're Back in the US and not only have I see it, but I own it on VHS. We also had The Land Before Time movie. And I remember when Sue the Dinosaur was unveiled at the Field Museum. All of this stuff pre-dates JP*; but because JP is so big and became a pop culture phenom, I think we often mistake it for kicking off the dino-craze. The demand for dinosaur related things seemed to increase after 1993; so I think all the stuff that pre-dated JP were "found" after JP and helped sustain the dino-craze of the 1990's.
Maybe like how Star Wars kicked off people's fascination with space; even though movies like Flash Gordon and 2001: A Space Odyssey and the TV show Star Trek already existed.
*Sue was discovered in 1990; but didn't go on display until 1997, four years after JP.
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It's interesting that you bring up Flash Gordon. George Lucas actually tried to make a Flash Gordon movie based on the comics, but failed to get the rights, so he made Star Wars instead. The Flash Gordon comics date back to the 1930s and the movie of Flash Gordon actually came after the Star Wars movie in 1980. The movie of Flash Gordon actually ended up being part of the space-fantasy craze despite the source material being an inspiration for it.
I believe I'm around the same age as Rhoda (based on when she was counting down to her 30th). My family moved across the country when I was 8 and I know that I saw "Dinosaurs: The Movie" in our old house, but that I was at my new school across the country when I went to see "Jurassic Park" at the age of 10.
"Dinosaurs: The Movie" is not the same thing as "We're Back". The thing I'm referring to was not produced by Spielberg like "We're Back and "The Land Before Time" were. Click here to check out a VHS rip of Dinosaurs: The Movie on Youtube. It stars Omri Katz from Eerie Indiana!
One more thing. Do you reckon the way everything is all randomly dinosaur-related in the "Mario Brothers" movie is probably a direct result of Jurassic Park? It seems likely to me.
I guessed that the movie of Jurassic World must have been convincing 'in the moment' with its trained-velociraptor explanation. I was hoping perhaps there were some reasons that were convincing outside of the film, because not having seen it, it's hard to understand how those trainable raptors could possibly be the same monsters which essentially had to be kept in a closed pen in the first movie.
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George Lucas actually tried to make a Flash Gordon movie based on the comics, but failed to get the rights, so he made Star Wars instead.
I know that story; it was part of the reason I brought it up. ;)
(It's funny to imagine a world without Star Wars had Lucas actually gotten the rights for Flash Gordon.)
Oh, when I Googled "Adventures in Dinosaur City movie" the only thing that came up was We're Back. So, I go back to my original point; nope haven't seen that one. And I haven't seen the Mario Brothers movie, so I can't comment on that.
it's hard to understand how those trainable raptors could possibly be the same monsters which essentially had to be kept in a closed pen in the first movie
You're right that it is different from the raptors in JP. . . but not as much as I think you're assuming it is. The raptors in JW are not roaming around; their paddock is separate from the park, and I don't think it is even an attraction where visitors can go.
Perhaps using Siegfried and Roy was another poor example. The raptors aren't trained to do, like, circus animal tricks. It's more behavioral study with them and Pratt's character. He became their alpha, similarly to how that one, large raptor in JP alpha'd the other two raptors. But the point is that the raptors--or any dinosaur--can't be trained like a pet dog.
There's a subplot with InGen who wants to use the raptors for like military missions. It's one of the subplots that I said didn't work. . . and it comes to bite everyone in the ass. So, yeah, some of the teeth is taken out of the raptors; but they aren't completely "toothless".
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